Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 220.127.116.11
Forum Moderators: phranque
I've been very happy with Norton so far; it's always stopped viruses for me and I've never found anything in my system scans. I have noticed that it seems to slow down my computer somewhat.
So anyway, is there any free, perhaps open-source AV software that is better than Norton? I can't think of any better place to ask than here! So if you have experience with Norton AND some other AV software, I'd love to hear your recommendations!
It isn't free however ..
First time you run almost anything on your system you are gonna find all the stuff that Norton missed ;)
Also get a registry monitor ...
If you're anywhere near mission-critical it just doesn't cut it if you ask me.
it will say ..." whatever " .."has tried to change the registry ..do you accept?" ...unless you accept ..the registry will stay the same and you didn't get the "drive by scumware" ..
if however you were updating your photoshop ..you accept and all is "bunnies and bambi" ...
There used to be a very good small free proggy that does this at [diamondcs.com.au...] called "regprot" ....It was going to become a pay for ..maybe is now ...but there are still some places where you can get the slightly less recent version for free if they got around to charging for the new one ...
I'm the guy friends ask to fix their PCs when things go wrong ;), and I've come across a few running AVG that still got infected. If you want a free program, I think it's the best out there, but I prefer to spend the £20/$40 for something more reliable. I rarely get viruses, but other people use this PC so I figure it pays to be careful.
If you want tests or anything like that I recommend Virus Bulletin [virusbtn.com]
So far I've been very very happy with AVG. Which fixed ONE thing that norton did that I didn't even know it was doing: interfering with my ability to restore my machine to an earlier point in time.... jeez. WHAT a thing to mess with!
If it gets to the point where AVG becomes problematic for me for some reason, I'll no doubt buy nod32.
The only thing that slightly worries me are macro viruses inside Word documents. So I'm curently looking for an AV scanner that only runs on command, for instance when I drop a file on its desktop icon.
they are much too easy to open and infect and go around .
Avg is ok if you're carefull ...but you will fall with it eventually ...
even better idea is to run 2 Av's like Nod 32 and Avg together ..( that way if one is ever the subject of a specific disabler ...the other will be there to block )..
But please get a regmon of some sort ...
For those who really have the money and want to sleep sound try "esafe" ...make sure you're sitting down for the price tag!
But nothing is 100% certain ...except that some avs mentioned here and elswhere are crap ...I spend stupid amounts of time removing stuff from machines that got sold with them installed ..or who's owners bought them of the shelf and "Budget Billy's Computer Kabin" or it's local equivalent....
Even some folks who say " well I thought I was ok cos I got this from a "swap" on kazaa " ...( well Ok, they say it in french but you get the picture!)..
Klutz breed faster than rabbits..
Had free AVG or any other AV been doing its job and had you had a regmonitor in place you would have had no need to use any product such as adware remover, Spybot, adaware and hijackthis ..
take a visit here ( with lynx or firefox..patched as of today if you have version .9 up ) not IE ...Zone-h.org ( the url is not written as link deliberately so as to avoid inadvertant visits by those who wouldn't know how to clean up ) ..you want other places where you can get hacked kaspersky and instructions on how to ...there are many such places ..this one is quite mild :)
You're damning a piece of software because it's linked to in some cruddy email? Client-side AV stuff aside, the bulk of this crud can easily be dealt with by a few recipes on the server, sod downloading to deal with it in the first place.
We are here talking about both the "paid fors" and the "cracked" "patched" and "regkeyed" etcs..this is not the only peice of Av software by any means that has this problem and it is better than most in it's range ..
However it is compromised ..
There is no point buying expensive and large locks for your doors if every kid who walks by your house can pick up duplicate keys for those locks at any street corner downtown
opening down loaded emails is the least of your worries ..There are many pages on the net and not all are benign in their code ...if you go in with this software ..you run a higher risk of becoming a victim than with the first ones I mentioned ...
others are far far worse ..such as Norton and macafee..
I personally use no AV ..I have one small regmon on this machine ..I can fix what may happen ...I do not recommend this to others ..
as to your server ..do you really know enough about server security to know if your server AV is as effective as you think ....
I am not trying to argue with you here ..I do security as a side business where I am as as result of seeing a good friend nearly go broke because their machine got hit and they couldn't afford to replace it...turned out they were the first of many ...I used to do this stuff for free all the time ..now it's free some of the time..depends on the circumstances ...
I don't get paid by and have no aff status or whatever with the stuff that I recommend ..I know that some AV's etc are currently much more sure than others ..the situation is dynamic ..my recommendations may well change ...and nothing is 100% sure anyway ...but some are better than others ...for now ..
The site ( which I doubt you have had time to visit ) is not primarily a vendor or warez site ..
It is one of the safer ( for non security pros ) areas where you can read , eavesdrop on hackers and DOS writers , crash teams etc ...most of what is visible is well beyond the understanding of most people ..some maybe usefull to read to try to safeguard against attacks ,virii etc ( these are not "kiddies" although some are surprisingly young considering their talents in coding ..the 12 year old from Urkutsk is not just an urban myth unfortunately ) ...
Perhaps you personally are capable of repairing your machine if something gets by your AV as a result of your mail or surfing or free with whatever magazine CD or contaminated flash card or memory stick or ..the list is way longer than you think ...
However the original questioner was not so confident ...if your experience ( from both sides of the tracks ) in security is greater than mine I will be happy to hear ..as I'm sure will the rest of the readers of this thread ...
this is not about ego ..or who has the best AV on the market ...from my point of view this is about impartial informed advice ..
I could spend the time to get up to speed, but I'd get no work done. Ditto most people. Hourses for courses, and my wazoo is pretty hard to find for most probers. I'm far from a security expert, very far, but I think my level of awareness is appropriate for my level of exposure. And that's the point, I feel - realistically, most people have time for little more than wacking on a firewall and sticking on the best AV that their peers can recommend. I take this thread to be precisely about that.
But thanks for the reminder about NOD - anything that pitches itself on using low system resources is fine by me. And that's another good reason for not using Norton.
Norton does well and behave well
Mc Affee; wish that you will never need to fully remove it
then install some new utility and became insane due to MC Affee left overs clashing with the new clap
the web is full of sad stories regarding a full removal of Mac Affee
After that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.