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I am looking for a software that will enable me to check for the rankings for 100's of keywords, on different SE, the results may come from different domains (2 brans) and also not including listings from the Sponsored Listings.
Could you help, we use one software but is giving us missleading results.
Regards
Voyteck
You are probably wondering why no one is responding. I asked the same question a while back and someone said that there had been a big controversy about recommending this type of software, so now no one does.
I however will... but only in Sticky, so check it! :)
I am testing some software but it's not that good and it's not that fast. Any further advice is needed.
Thanks
Voyteck
I am using the software you have just showed me, commercial version, but it started giving inaccurate results. They do not answer the support line and do not reply to e-mails.
The software has lot's of useful feature however we cannot rely on it anymore, unless we see the results to be accurate again as they were before.
Still looking further and I am lookind forward for other examples.
Regards
Voyteck
Thank you for your response. I will just give you a brief look at our expectations so you can better understand why it's important.
As a company we are doing SEO for big Client's, some having PR 9, besides that we are preparing montly reports, that check for each Client:
- ranking for up to 300 keywords per Client
- each Client may use diffrent domain's for example during brand name change process, so we have to verify position checking for more then one domain at a time
- we check for 5-30 search engines per Client
This is why we look for an advanced and reliable software, so I am still looking for suggestions.
Regards
Voyteck
Google says that they don't want you to use automated programs to query them, so maybe they are skewing the results on purpose.
From Google:
Fiction: Automated "ranking checking" programs are a good way for webmasters to save time and measure their "online presence."Fact: Automated "ranking checking" programs violate Google's terms of service.They use server resources that should be spent on answering user requests. We strongly request that you not use rank checking programs to check your position on Google.
Haha.... Fiction? My results aren't ever off enough for me to not trust them!
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Apparently lots of people are abusing Google according to their TOS:
You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat and display them...
Oops!
No Automated Querying
You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express permission in advance from Google. Note that "sending automated queries" includes, among other things:using any software which sends queries to Google to determine how a website or webpage "ranks" on Google for various queries; "meta-searching" Google; and performing "offline" searches on Google.
Oops, again!
Guess I'm goin to hell, who's comin with me?
[whatrank.com...]
It says that if you do the free signup, you can save & manage your searches.
The problem with SEC is that when using the software without limited bandwith we are using for the reports 4 Mbit line, the SEC is giving missaccurate results, although the software is really good.
If you have a client that requires this I bet they are hard to deal with.
You bet wrong, Client's may have diffrent needs. Some although ranking really good, have not much idea about online activities. We are the one who know lot's about it.
A good client looks at their logs.
So you are saying that a Client who: is ranking high, and having no idea about log's, why they rank, and what's important is a bad Client. We are the specialists and we try to make the Client happy and one of the things is to present them at the end with a report that summerises our efforts.
If you are doing your job it is very easy for them to tell by looking at their stats. Outside of Yahoo, Google, AOL, MSN, and ASK it is a waste of time to look at other SE's rankings.
I agree with you, however the Client may feel he want's to see the results for other SE as well. I know it's useless, but at the end it's not us it's the Client who decides.
What is the point of showing results from 30 SE’s? That’s just silly. I don't run reports any more. I used to be addicted to it. It sounds like you are just blowing smoke at them. Ranking reports are a waste of time.
YES and NO. At the end you have to make the Client happy, by doing your job right, and by listening to his needs.
Btw:
Where are you located? Just curious?
Regards
Voyteck
YES and NO. At the end you have to make the Client happy, by doing your job right, and by listening to his needs.
Kind of true. YOU dictate to the client what you'll report up front, tell them the rest is insignificant and that if it changes, you will include whoever is a new big player.
If they don't have faith in you to determine the most important places to watch for performance, one of two things happened:
1. You didn't explain yourself well enough for them to trust that you have a good handle on things.
-or-
2. The problem is THIERS! They WON'T trust you, and you need to decide if they are worth supporting. We just recently asked a big client to look elsewhere because they wanted to micromanage everything like yours it trying. You however might not be in a position to do that. (By the way, our ex-client has seen a signifacant drop in sales since, and is trying to come back. Kind of like letting a little kid run away... they usually don't make it across the street before they realize their mistake and come crawling back... then YOU are in control!)
All they need to know is that they make more money.
Exactly. Once they realize that, they should ease off.
The reports are always going to be inaccurate. I have a strong feeling that some of these programs leave a distinct enough footprint that the SEs can detect. They then serve you a different set of results, if any.
Even using Google's API service to check rankings is inaccurate because they pull results from a different database.
As mentioned above, analyzing the log files and looking at overall statistics is going to be the key factor in working with clients. Who the heck cares if you rank well for 300 keywords, tis pocket change. What you should be showing the client is how many terms were used to find their site. How many times those terms were used. The click path of the visitor, etc.
There are many other factors that are much more important than rankings with ROI being at the top of the list.
Search engine ranking programs are deprecated!
