Not seeing updated pages

They ARE in the ftp....¿¿

[tbear]

Can anyone help¿
When I have uploaded new versions of pages, recently, to 2 different ftp accounts (unconnected) I am not seeing them when I surf the pages. This happened with images recently and I got around it by re-naming the images, but I certainly don't want to re-name, for example, my 'index.html' page.
Oh, and since I recently started using 'Opera' (love it!) I tried to see them with that as a browser, since I'd not visited the site with Opera, no joy...... so forget browser cache as a source of the problem.
WHen I check the files that are on the ftp, they are correct and up to date, I just don't seem to be able to call them from a browser (nor clients either, so it seems to be a problem for any site visitor).
Can ftps have cache problems?¿

[le_gber]

Have you tried deleting the files, try viewing them and then reuploading them on you don't see them anymore?

Or, may be your ISP is doing heavy caching.

Leo

[tbear]

Yes LEo, been there. Just went again to be three hundred sure....
What is puzzling is that when I view the page direct from the ftp (ws_ftp95) I see the updated page code. The date of upload is also correct, it is just not showing in a browser.
What's 'heavy caching', sounds like it may be what I don't need? :+)

[g1smd]

Last time this happened to me it was a simple typo where I had a letter in the filename in Upper case by mistake. I now ensure all filenames are all in lower case. Also, just do a quick reality check that you haven't uploaded a .png, but referred to it as a .jpg or .gif or anything silly like that.

I'm sure you have already checked, but usually it is something really silly that causes the biggest confusion. Been there. Done that.

[Ross]

Tbear,
Have you tried hitting CTL-F5 to force a reload of the cache?

[Mike12345]

Sometimes files take a little while to propagate, how long since you uploaded them?

[tbear]

Hmm, thanks guys....
>>a letter in the filename in Upper case by mistake

I just modified the file, not the name (index.html) and I never use capitals for file names... ;+)

>>Have you tried hitting CTL-F5 to force a reload of the cache?

I tried a browser that had never seen the site before (Opera) so I don't think it's my cache....

>>how long since you uploaded them?

Now we're looking at 24 hrs, and the problem never existed before, that is, I'd upload and there they'd be...

The site is just a 'capricho', i.e. not important, but it does give me and it's visitors a little satisfaction (at my expense).

Again, thanks for the help, <scratches head>must be a server problem, methinks </scratches head>

[carfac]

Couple thoughts... Yes, I know these are all pretty stupid, but I have done all of them!

1) Are you uploading to the correct directory?
2) View the source (from the server) with your FTP- make sure the files ACTUALLY uploaded
3) Purge that cache again
4) Are they straight HTML? Sometimes templete based pages have to update through a system
5) On the same thought as the last... do you use mod_perl? You *might* have to restart the server to see some changes if they run through mod_perl.
6) purge that cache AGAIN!

Good Luck!

dave

[tbear]

Well, the problem seems to have righted itself.
I appreciate all the help, I believe everything I did was correct and also that we all sometimes make the most silly mistakes (even me LOL), but all of a sudden it's working again which leads me to believe it must have been a server problem (not mine) which is corrected.
Possibly related to le_gber's comment about heavy caching.
Thanks again folks......time now to sit and wait for the gizmo quizzzzzz....