No Such Process when Restarting Apache

Is this something to be concerned about?

[carfac]

Hi:

Many times, when I restart my server, I get messages like this:

killall: kill -TERM 40405: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40393: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40356: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40305: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40304: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40303: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40302: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40301: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40300: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40299: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40298: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40297: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 40296: No such process

is this something to be worried about? What does this mean?

Thanks!

dave

[EliteWeb]

apachectl stop

a fun command to stop apache then do a apachectl start -if yer doing this than hMmmmMm

[carfac]

No, I am running kill `cat /usr/local/apache/logs/httpd.pid then the restart. Should I use stop instead?

dave

[ggrot]

Kill is always the last resort. Tell apache to stop on it's own as was explained above, then if that doesn't work - try kill.

[andreasfriedrich]

This analogy might help:

Just like you will ask some children that trespas on your property to steal cherries from your trees to leave instead of killing them right from the start you should give any daemon the chance to shutdown gracefully and on its own before killing it ;).

Andreas

[amoore]

You might as well use apachectl or your /etc/init.d/httpd script since they do some cleanup and more gracefully start and stop apache. Just for the record, though, they use kill to control the apache daemon, too. Perhaps it's a misnomer, but it's used to send signals to processes, not commit felonious acts of murder on children.

[carfac]

Everyone:

OK, thanks a lot. I have a little shut-down-restart script I run, I will take that line out, and add the one you all suggest! I appreciate your help! (As always!)

dave

[carfac]

Hi:

I'm Back!

OK, I did it with a call to apachectl and the command stop. I just ran that, and got this:

/my/pth/to/apachectl stop: httpd stopped
killall: kill -TERM 44394: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44406: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44384: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44539: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44402: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44405: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44391: No such process
killall: kill -TERM 44398: No such process

There were more, but you get the idea...

Is this something to be concerned about? Are these just processes that were used a coiuple times, and are "hibernating" or waiting for another user to log on, so no worries?

Thanks!

dave

[carfac]

Oh, nevermind- I FORGOT to comment out Killall!

NEVERMIND!

dave

[andreasfriedrich]

I was only referring to the unfriendly signals like SIGKILL or SIGTERM (you donīt ask the children to kill themselves). I do realize that in signal terms you would probably use a kill SIGINT to request that the children interrupt what they are doing ;)

Andreas