Forum Moderators: phranque

Message Too Old, No Replies

Tax issues - strategies to save your bucks

What is the best way of doing it?

         

wolfadeus

2:28 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Now that I make almost 1,50 Dollars a day, I got to start thinking about how to save tax ;D

Seriously, thinking of somebody making 100 dollars a day from ads, one could probably live from the money - if you wouldn't have to tax it and thus loose some 50 percent (depending on where you are from).

Since many of you guys make this amount from ads only, I wonder what the most efficient way of saving money from the tax is. Interestingly, this issue does not seem to be widely discussed on this forum, despite of buggung quite a number of people here.

Do you all officially live on the channel islands or in the Caribbean? Spread accounts over family and friends? Or pay the full tax in your country of origin?

LifeinAsia

4:27 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Actually, there have been several discussions related to taxes- the April 15th deadline always brings out a lot of those discussions. :)

If you want to pay less in taxes, there are only 2 (legal) ways:
1) Make less money
2) Get more deductions

(Comments are based on U.S. tax law.) Basically, make sure that you are claiming all the business expenses that the tax law allows you to. For some, it may make sense to form a corporation or LLC. Your business should be paying for your health insurance and contributing to your retirement plan (both get more complicated if you have employees).

For more details, consult a tax adviser who can give you in-depth advice based on your specific situation.

wolfadeus

8:06 am on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Does this mean that most US webmasters actually pay US tax without even trying to escape to other countries? Is it normal income tax that is due?

LifeinAsia

3:41 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



If you're a U.S. citizen, you are subject to U.S. income taxes on all your income, regardless of where you earn it.

If you are taxed on overseas income, you can get a tax credit to reflect that the money was already taxed by another jurisdiction. If you live overseas (subject to certain requirements, including being physically outside the U.S. and its territories for at least 330 days of the year), you can exclude some of your overseas income from U.S. taxes. (I believe it was about $70K plus housing exenses 5 years ago, the last time I qualified for the exclusion.)

How the income is taxed depends on how it is earned, which often depends on how your structure the business. Examples:
- sole proprietor: profits are taxed as ordinary income plus self-employment tax
- C Corp: corporate tax on profits; then
A) employees pay ordinary tax (plus their share of payroll taxes) on wages paid to them and corporation pays payroll taxes (corp gets to deduct wages & taxes, lowering its taxable income), or
B) dividends to owner taxed like ordinary dividends (but corp doesn't get to deduct)

wolfadeus

4:50 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



That is interesting, thanks LifeinAsia; I am EU citizen, but have American friends here in the UK - now I see why they get taxed on income even if made in Europe.

Any EU citizens around that know how to handle the matter on this side of the Atlantic Ocean?

malachite

8:46 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Are you self-employed? It doesn't matter if you're not, but there will come a time when your income reaches a point beyond "hobby" level where you will need to register as such. And yes, you can be both employed and self-employed.

The thing to do, and this applies broadly speaking regardless of where you are in the world, is to offset the maximum amount of "expenses" against turnover as possible, so you only pay tax on the profits. Slightly different rules apply in different countries, but the principle is the same.

Here in the UK, there are a great many perfectly legitimate business expenses you can claim. For instance, hosting, domain names, hardware, software, phonecalls. Do you travel as part of your internet business? If so, you can claim for that too. Advertising, promotion. All this stuff is for your BUSINESS.

If you're running a business from home, you can also claim a portion of your gas/electric/water, BUT, only claim a sensible part - around 15-20% - as you do live there after all, and would generate these expenses anyway. Claim too much against your home, you get hit for tax when you sell it.

Bottom line, if your business turns over £10,000 for example, and you have accrued expenses of £6,000 in the course of running that business, you only pay tax on the £4,000 profit.

Stop thinking of revenue generated by your site(s) as income, and start thinking in terms of turnover, expenses and profits :)

wolfadeus

8:12 am on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Thanks Malachite, great information! I am still amazed by the fact that most poeple here seem to tax their money in high-tax countries.

I'll remember your advice once I hit the 2-Dollars-a-day mark! ;)