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Watched Office Space for the first time.

now thinking about quiting again for adsense..

     
2:09 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont know where i've been but i have never watched Office Space until this weekend. I also work for a computer software company and come in everyday 9-5 and sit in a cube starring at the monitor and pretty much working on my own sites all day...lol

I dont make much at my job. 30k a year. I've been with adsense for about 6 months now and make much more then i would at my job. With adsense and all of my other affilates i'm closing on 10k/month.

I've been thinking about quiting my job but i'm always affraid of just having adsense and affiliate income because you never know what might happen. Should i take the risk and quit. If i did i would have more time to develop and probably increase my earnings to 15k/month.

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just make sure to leave the stapler on your desk...!

while i'm not one to give business advice (i'm a humanities academic) i do say "get out of the office" to everyone i meet, so do it! Having a backup plan is absolutely essential though, and with your work experience you likely do have one. I would invest your money in real estate or something concrete though that you can fall back on if you need to.

I also freelance from home and have found that slacking off on my work happens, often, but that once I give myself a project to do it usually comes through.

And it's fun to work in your pajamas, in your own house, with your own bathroom, etc. and no guy in suspenders holding a cup of coffee telling you about memo cover pages.

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StuntasticAudi, do you work with a foreign guy named "Samir" who gets angry when the printer gets a paper jam? lol
2:46 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You need a savings fund to act as a buffer - at least 6 months net living expenses, so if you had to, you could live with no income for 6 months.

Life is full of risks. If it's the right thing to do then it's the right thing to do. Just mitigate any potential disaster with a backup plan and backup finances in place.

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2:50 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On a serious note though, I would love to earn the kind of money you earn on adsense. Its fantastic, especially considering your CTR is very low. You must have a ton of page views.
2:56 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm thinking if your 9-to-5 isn't totally stressing you out, and you're already making close to 10k/month on Adsense, why dump $30K/year?

That's $30k/year to sit in a cubicle, do your personal stuff on company computers, and listen to your boss say, "Ummmm... yeah... I'm gonna have to go ahead and get you to send me those flowcharts and Powerpoint slides by 1:00p.m."

$30k/year is a decent amount of money for a stress-less job, IMO

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Yea my job is easy...i sit at my desk with my red stapler all day...see they laid me off 5 years ago but there was a glitch in the system so i'm still on the payroll..lol jk.

Yea i know its 30k extra a year but i just dont have any interest in my job anymore. I come in and start working on my own sites and when my manager comes by the desk and says heeeyyy whats happening! i'm gonna need you to do this and that...i just want to say dude i'm busy. I dont have anything saved up right now so if i quit i would have to depend on adsense and other affilates as my main income.

3:25 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont have anything saved up right now so if i quit i would have to depend on adsense and other affilates as my main income.

Then stick it out a few more months. I wouldn't give up a salaried job for a fickle business without anything in the bank.

And there's not much that's more fickle than the web...

TJ

3:40 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't buy it.
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me neither,

you are making 10k a month plus 30k a year and you don't have anything saved?

3:54 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why would the story not be credible?
You don't know the cost of living in the area where he lives. Perhaps 30k a year is hardly enough to pay the rent...
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A friend of mine recently mentioned the receptionists at his company only sit at the front desk and switch phones, most of the day they play solitare, for $30 000 a year.

My first comment was that they should be doing affiliate marketing in that time, then I had to explain why I really didn't want him to recommend me for a job there lol.

Budget your necessary expenses for a month. Then figure out how many months it takes to get a new job in your field, and save up the necessary funds. if you can get out, then for god's sake go.

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I also work for a computer software company and come in everyday 9-5

Unless you're an accountant, receptionist or something else non-technical I can't imagine any 9-5 software company as I never got out earlier than 8pm most days (that's an early day too) unless I just never came back from lunch!

Then stick it out a few more months. I wouldn't give up a salaried job for a fickle business without anything in the bank.

Oh come on, I bailed out of the corporate jungle about 6 years ago and have lived off the web ever since in one form or another, it's not that fickle.

FYI, in some states anything you do AT THE OFFICE the company owns so if you get caught working on your websites at the office, they might just claim everything you've ever done from your desk as THEIRS.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 4:29 pm (utc) on April 10, 2006]

4:26 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Aim to have enough saved to last at least six months if you had no income. More would be better, but if you have no dependants, six would likely be enough.

Work at this from two directions. Save money, obviously, but also do everything you can to reduce your monthly obligations. Wind up debts, pay off credit cards, look for ways to reduce expenses. Get used to living on a cash basis, not credit, annd develop the discipline of waiting until you have the money before making purchases. It's easier to ride the rollercoaster of a freelance income if you have the freedom to postpone spending in a lean month, instead of facing a stack of bills that MUST be paid to cover past purchases.

Good luck!

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Quit your job. There is no difference in quitting your job for adsense than quitting for another job. A $30,000 job is replaceable if you ever had to go back to work. Losing my $50,000 job a few years ago was the best thing that ever happened to me, financially, emotionally and physically. Life is too short to waste it doing what you don't want to do.
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You would be a fool to quit. If you have been getting 150k a year and haven't been able to save anything, how will you ever survivie on 120k?

What you should be doing is living on your 30k for a year and investing 100% of your adsense income some of the high dividend stocks or similar investments. When you can live on those dividend payments, then quit your job.

I'm not suggesting that everyone needs to do this before switching to adsence as their sole income (though it wouldn't hurt) but it sounds like you need to learn some money management if you yave been making 150k without putting any away.

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Stroking StuntasticAudi's ego:
Wow 10k monthly you must be good!

On a serious note: You said twice that you get paid 30k per year an spend office hours working on your own business, how is that honest or acceptable? What is the difference between you and an MFA owner that you have been screaming your lungs against in this forum, or someone who is clicking their own ads for a living? Is Google money honest money and your employer's free game? Not nice, StuntasticAudi, for your own good revise your standards.

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Quit your job and take the RISK.

9-5 job wont get you 7 digit bank account.

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I quit my job a few years ago, but 6 months net income isn't nearly enough to stand on.

You need 6 months living expenses to keep you going after the point you decide it isn't going to work.

I went for about 18 months living expence when I left my job. I decided if it got down to 6 months I'd start looking for another job. Hasn't happened yet although I'm not living solely off adsense.

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$30 thousand a year is not unreasonable for a web site to generate.

I have been doing just fine for a number of years now... I only work from home and do just fine. I have multiple CDs in the bank generating income. Also some income property up in Oregon.

Getting up at 10:00am and staying up until you get tired is the best way to do it. Taking naps, eating when you want, having your own executive bathroom. Watching TV, listening to Satellite Radio ... going outside working in the garden, making PodCasts... spending your time as you see fit. Wasting time or being productive... it is your choice. Working for yourself is the way to live.

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I'm with others on this one, quit your job ASAP. Just make sure you have some income saved up. Why make 30k when you can make 300k or 3 million? It can be done. You can't get rewards without taking risk.

Also, once you get the hang of adsense you'll want to branch out into investing in stocks, bonds, real estate, etc...

This site is a true asset for anyone’s future. Thanks to Webmaster World, I'm learning about how to really turn adsense into one source of income and about working for myself so that I will never have to worry about the drudge of a 9-5 job.

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6:53 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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the drudge of a 9-5 job

Someimes I miss the 9-5, 8am-11pm now with AdSense but somehow I'm ok with it.
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Stroking StuntasticAudi's ego:
Wow 10k monthly you must be good!
On a serious note: You said twice that you get paid 30k per year an spend office hours working on your own business, how is that honest or acceptable? What is the difference between you and an MFA owner that you have been screaming your lungs against in this forum, or someone who is clicking their own ads for a living? Is Google money honest money and your employer's free game? Not nice, StuntasticAudi, for your own good revise your standards.

How is that honest or acceptable? lol i'm sorry that you're one of those people that is so loyal to your company but i'm just not. I can care less i'm not going to sit there and make money for my boss while he's golfing..sorry i come in and do my own work while i get paid at my job.

Anyways i left after lunch today. No more work for me. I was making $30k a year at work and now just started making good money from adsense. I had a lot of debt and it is finally paid off. I can now live off adsense and affilate income.

7:07 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i'm sorry that you're one of those people that is so loyal to your company

It's about loyalty to oneself not a company, sorry for you if you still don't get it.
7:15 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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StuntasticAudi: By the way I am not in any way trying to sound morally superior or compare your ethics to mine, you are free to live the life you choose, I was only giving you honest advice for your life in general, in addition to voicing concern over what others seem to have missed in your posts.
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I understand but what are you talking about me being loyal to myself. Are you saying that i'm not a good person because i come to work and i'm not loyal and do stuff i shouldnt do?
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it all looks a dream to me, a 30K Job with no work at all and part time job earning you 120 k in a year, what more you want in life
7:34 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I did not mention loyalty, you did.
I was saying that a line should be drawn at taking money that is not earned, be it an Advertiser's, Google's or your employer's money there is no difference, its all the same, you be the judge of what makes you good a good person, it's up to you.
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As long as you are getting your work done who cares. If your getting paid a low salary to do a certain job and it's getting done, why not do something constructive instead of sitting there in your cubicle all day dreaming of another career or lifestyle.

You might also draft up a letter to ownership stating that they might save $30,000 a year by eliminating your position and ask for a severance package.

I used to work on my site at work also. If my work was completed and instead of joining others in play.

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Don't ever quit your day job. That's steady income.
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