Hi-Jacked web site!!

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Hi-Jacked web site!!

They stole my site!!

Conard

9:46 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have been log file surfing today and noticed several hits from a couple of domains.
Out of curiosity I went to the sites to see what was up.
They were both exact copies of my site. I dug a bit deeper and found they were serving my pages through a hidden frame. Both domains belong to the same person, but different addresses and names. I emailed him and asked him to stop.
I also added the old JavaScript to pop out of frames to my index page.
My question to you folks is....will the Java Script mess with my Google rankings?
and..
What else can I do about this?

ScottM

10:13 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

My understanding is that Javascript is not good for Google.

If they are using your pages...I suggest e-mailing their ISP or host if you can find it.

Another tactic is a threatening 'cease and desist' e-mail over copywrite infringement. If you do that...be prepared to sue them...and then do it.

My 2 cents....

keyplyr

10:15 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

Conard, the first time I saw my website in another site's frames I reacted much the same as you. At the time I didn't understand frames and though my site was actually stolen, then I saw Lycos.de(?) doing it and started to realize that although controversial, it was common practice; the hosting site gets to keep it's navigation, look-feel and advertisements while presenting your page as a link, example: AskJeeves.com

I also use JS to break frames (served externally) and have had no problems with Google crawls and see no affect with PR.

[edited by: keyplyr at 10:31 pm (utc) on June 29, 2002]

Conard

10:28 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

I did some more digging and it looks like this person may be serving these sites from home.

keyplyr,
You do not see any of their site, only my site with a title change reflected in the top frame.
One of the domains is right on target for my site, the other one is a touch strange.

I'll set up the JS externally.

keyplyr

10:42 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

> I did some more digging and it looks like this person may be serving these sites from home.

Well that is a completely different scenario and breaking frames will not affect a copy of your mark-up which is being served from somewhere else.

However, if your host is still serving your pages, then your site is not stolen. The other domain may be cloaking your http info using a gripper to conceal your Titles. Again, this may be unethical but hardly theft since they have not copied your content. But I would also be enraged about this!

ScottM

10:58 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

ummmm...theft it IS if they are passing off content that is not theirs as their own. It's a copywrite issue.

'Fair Use' is one thing...a total hijack is a copywrite violation.

Google and other SE's taking a cache are NOT violating copywrite law. They are not presenting the work as their own...big difference.

Conard

11:22 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

My host is still serving my site.
This bozo has just put this in the index of his site:
<html>
<head>
<title>His Title</title>
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" scrolling=no border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0>
<frame name=main src="http://www.my_domain.com/">
<frame name=warp src=blank.html>
</frameset>
</html>

I have moved all JS off page and it just refreshes to my site now.

keyplyr

11:32 pm on Jun 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

You could ban his ip. Many ways to do it. You could even do it with a JS:

<!--
netscape = (navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape") != -1);
version4 = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("4.") != -1);

if (netscape && version4) {
ip = "" + java.net.InetAddress.getLocalHost().getHostAddress();
if (ip.indexOf("XXX.XX.XXX.XXX") >= -1)

{
alert("Nasty_Message_Here.");
history.go(-1);
}
}
//-->

mack

12:07 am on Jun 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

Contact a lawyer...

Get an official letter drafted. It may cost you.. but copyright infringement will cost him/her a lot more.

Conard

12:33 am on Jun 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

keyplyr,
There are many refels from both of these sites. Many different ip's including some Zeus bots. They must be linked from somewhere but so far not on Google.
I am sening you a Sticky with the urls to check out.

habitat675

4:08 pm on Jun 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

I had that happen to my site twice. It made me so mad. But it wasn't in frames, he actually copied my source and pasted it and every place where my name was, he changed it to his name and the same with email addresses. I emailed him from a different email address and asked if he made the page himself and he replied that yes he did. That made me even madder. Then I see at a message board I go to a lot he posts something with really big capital letters in the topic name that I stole HIS web site! So I did the only thing I could do- I hacked his whole web site and changed his password. Haha. Well, it worked.