Mom Refuses Facebook!

[incrediBILL]

Forget Marketing for just a minute and let's discuss real world uses for Facebook and why it's failing for me.

Mom.

Ever try to get a parent or relative on Facebook?

My daughter is all over Facebook, she's got every family photo shes' ever ever taken, all the grand kids photos, all on Facebook.

Now fast forward to conversation with Mom:

mom: Nobody ever sends me any pictures of the kids
me: they're all on facebook, tons of pictures
mom: I don't use facebook
me: it's easy, sign up and we'll send you a link to my daughter's account, easy peasy
mom: I don't want to give facebook all my details
me: you don't have to give them any details, lie
mom: I don't want to use facebook, they'll learn too much about me
me: not if you life, fake name, gmail account, nothing is real
mom: I don't trust them
me: then you will never ever see your great grand childrens pictures, they're on facbook if you ever want to see them, call me if you change your mind

She's still not on facebook and she still hasn't seen pictures of her grand kids in a couple of years.

Not my fault she's so stubborn.

The funny part is she uses the web, she uses all kinds of sites all over the place, she just refuses to use facebook which is where all her family and friends are online.

If they don't send her stuff by email, then she's out of the loop.

Oh well.

LOL

[getcooking]

LOL! You just described my mom. She's totally web savvy - has her own eBay store, shops online, hangs out in forums - but won't touch Facebook. Her reason? She doesn't want old boyfriends to find her. The woman is 80 years old - are old boyfriends stalking her really an issue?

[Leosghost]

I'm unclear on whether you are describing Mrs incrediBill..( daughter's "Mom" ) ..or incrediBill's Mom ..
Either way ? I tend to agree with "Mom" ( but then you'd have probably guessed that anyway ;)..before facebook there was email..when facebook is gone, there will still be email ( or it's equivalent ) ..tell them to use email to "Mom"..

Tell them if they don't..then "Mom" won't see the Grand Kids.."Mom" will be "out of the loop"..

You may have to use force..

But when force is gone..there will be "mom"..

"Hi Mom" .. ;)

Cue Laurie Anderson...O Superman...

[Hoople]

There are a few Wordpress plugins that allow public viewing of timeline and photo album pics. They depend on an access token you have to request while logged in as that facebook user.

Of course this means setting up a blog just for mom with one page per photo album. A bit of a PITA but she bore the greater pain, right?

PS: the thumbnails are tiny (100x100), so it may not be viable if her vision is not up to the tinyness.

[creeking]

get one of those simple slideshow programs and put all the pictures in it.

put it on her pc desktop

[Samizdata]

Forget Marketing for just a minute

Hard to do when the request is immediately followed by heavy promotion of a particular corporation.

If they don't send her stuff by email, then she's out of the loop.

So teach them how to use email and attach photographs.

It is easy, free, and nobody has to lie.

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[redlobster]

I feel your pain :D

My mum had issues getting online full stop, until I told her shoes were cheaper to buy online. She hasn't looked back since!

[Marshall]

I'm with mom. While I have a fb account to maintain business pages, they get nothing from me. But it does amaze me ALL the information people will freely post/share on fb. Do I trust fb? HECK NO!

Side note: It is inconsiderate and selfish of the kids to make any parent submit to their rules just to see pictures of the grand kids. In this multi-media, multi-device world, it is that hard to email a copy?!

Marshall

[incrediBILL]

That's all nice and good suggestions but Mom doesn't have to USE facebook except to read, which was my point, she just needs a login because the pictures are private.

Not a big deal whatsoever.

I'm not making any online gallery, send email, none of the above, wasn't my photos, they were my daughters and if being at a stand off is where it's going to be, so be it.

Plus, I don't have the original images and my daughter isn't that techie so it's just not going to happen.

You see, I'm just as stubborn as mom, where do you think I got it from? My kid is just as bad. The exception is I'll go to facebook and look at my grand kids pictures because there's stubborn, and then there's harming your own best interests by being ridiculous.

All we're talking about here is a name, any name, an email address, any email address, and a password of your choice.

Very little effort.

Sending the pics by email doesn't fly because her mail host has a 10mb limit or some such nonsense and we're not about to spend all that time resizing images so batches fit in email, forget about it.

I can guarantee nobody is jumping through any hoops when they're already posted, and a name, email and password will get there.

FWIW, I'm seeing her in a week and I'll offer to let her see them. If she refuses to look using MY account, then I'll know she's just being a PITA.

I suspect after she's seen them and we're there to set up her Facebook account she'll suddenly have one.

I'll let you know after Labor Day if Mom's doing the facebook or not.

:)

[Hoople]

If it seems like she's about to cave in share with her two things:

1) facebook doesn't know what you don't tell it.
2) At registration they ask for your name (choice) NOT your BIRTH name. They could be different <G>

[creeking]

this sounds like a job for fake-person ©

make a fake-name-account with a simple password and tell her it's hers to use.

Plus, I don't have the original images .....

you could use the facebook pics, which is what you want her to see. :)

[GlynMusica]

All we're talking about here is a name, any name, an email address, any email address, and a password of your choice."

- All the stuff can be faked but once people start tagging you with your fake name you can bet soon enough you'll have some clues as to what the real identity is by nature of the comments. For FB's marketing purposes it's all the same to them. They'll be able to sell the identity even if it's fake to their advertisers. The NSA might have a few more problems via ICReach but that's that.

- aside: If you've never completed your profile properly in Facebook it's hilarious watching their Algo jump through hoops trying to ping you down! It's starts out with...do you know X, then do you live in Town, do you live in X Country, do you live close to Y. I think mine is now asking me whether I know a 3-legged dog that belongs to a person I haven't spoken to for over 30 years.

Frankly It's the gold-rush out there in the land of "BIG DATA", your mum is completely right not to marry with the FB but it's all those kids that grew up with their personalities fused to online in a seamless way but with the difference that our generation had Games that weren't connected to anything and were not actively profiling you as you played them beyond the reals of a LOAD game or pressing the OFF button. I've been in playgrounds with my young kids and seen 12-15 years old spend whole afternoons doing selfies! BIGDATA, that's the gold rush. Mine while the legislations and policymakers try and understand what the in-tear-net is.

[engine]

Some elderly people are not online, and it's unfair to cut them out of the sharing. I would take my laptop to an elderly relative and let them look at the images from my computer, just as I would have done had they been good old fashioned prints.

Solution: Invite them round, or visit them to let them see the images from the FB users account, or your account, or from the laptop, tablet, or other device.

[Robert Charlton]

...let them look at the images from my computer, just as I would have done had they been good old fashioned prints

Just as I suspected, this has had a large negative effect on searches for refrigerator magnets.

Checking Google Trends, I see that searches for phrase are only 20% of what they were 10 years ago....

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