Expired or Expiring Domain Lists - Do They Work? Are They Still Relevant? Worth their cost?

Country code lists available, such as .PT? Reliable? Accurate? Worth the cost?

[Linkhouseo]

Hi

I'm looking for list of expired or expiring Portugal domains (.pt). Anyone?

[Webwork]

Hello linkhouseseo. Welcome to WebmasterWorld. I hope you don't mind me modifying your title a bit. My intention is to possibly draw more people and information into the thread.

I've never been a fan of such lists since they draw more people into the chase for the better domains by making their lapse more public. Therefore, the lists don't necessarily improve your odds of securing an interesting domain.

Today, with the growing abundance of alternative domains, I would suggest a much more targeted strategy of chasing domains than "list searching". Know your market. Know values. Know the competition. Have a business plan and stick to it.

Lists invite a much less well defined approach.

[Linkhouseo]

Actually I'm interested IF those list exist so the topic you set is totally irrelevant, especially since I'm asking only for .pt domains :) I'm not looking for "super turbo PR9+ DA80 list", just for some automatic list, published for registrators (I've seen this in few other countries") where you have to do all filtering by yourself.

Example from Hungary - [domain.hu...]

[RedBar]

Have you tried the Portuguese DNS?

[dns.pt...]

Surely they would know?

[Webwork]

You may be right that the title rewrite is "totally irrelevant" but, having been the maître d' of this joint for a decade, I might know how to bang controls on the elevator so it takes you to the right floor . . versus the basement. ;)

I've hunted around a bit and haven't found much via search. Maybe Google.pt might work better . . if you speak the language.

Let me know if you have any better luck with the blackhat community. :p

[GreyBeard123]

I don’t know about Portugal, but lists of expiring domains (domains that will be deleted in the future) is sometimes (not always) available from the central registry operator.

E-mails to them aren’t always successful, phone calls are better; the best is if you can visit them.

Not all of them speak/understand English, thus it’s rather important that you speak the countries native language.

Nobody, as far as I know, supply a list of expired (deleted) domains...

[jmccormac]

The ccTLD mix of domain names is different to the mix of domain names in a global TLD like .COM. A lot of the expiring domain names would be local business names rather than generics. I did some research on .pt (and most of the other European ccTLDs about five years ago).

Regards...jmcc

[GreyBeard123]

A lot of the expiring domain names would be local business names rather than generics

I totally agree with you

It took us a month or two to obtain similar findings; it was a total waste of our time.

[RedBar]

I'm wondering what type of name(s) Linkhouseo is seeking since checking its/their availability through the registrars would reveal its/their current registration period(s).

[jmccormac]

@GreyBeard123 I've been tracking ccTLD and gTLD domains for over 15 years and the good domains (typically generic but not always so) tend to get reregistered. Each ccTLD has a percentage of its domains that are unique to that ccTLD. This is a function of the distance of the dominant language from English (English language generic keywords) and the development of the country's market. As the market in the country matures, the local ccTLD becomes the dominant TLD and registrations in the gTLDs begin to fall.

Regards...jmcc

[Linkhouseo]

I'm about SEO value - not cool generic names - that's the problem :)

As someone above advised I contacted dns.pt and get response:

Regarding your question, we inform that, each entity/person associated to a domain as Registrant or Administrative Contact, can see the list of domains under their responsibility that can be renewed and therefore expire if not renewed; each list is accessible via login ( with nic-handle and password) of the entity or person at www.dns.pt.

We also inform that there is not a public general list of domains that can expire.

So another question for you guys, since you are so helpful. Where I can register .pt (or .com.pt) domains at lowest price? Anything cheaper than OVH (now they have a promo - 7.99€ exl.tax for .pt domain)?

[RedBar]

dns.pt have their list of registrars here:

[dns.pt...]

7.99 Euro? sounds ok to me.

[minnapple]

SEO value drops in terms of incoming link pop, once the domain expires and ownership changes hands. Less than ten years ago, it was a viable SEO tactic.

[GreyBeard123]

Some buy it on a continues basis, it’s still a viable SEO tactic