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Are You Still Speculatively Registering gTLD or ccTLD Domains?

Which gTLD or ccTLD? Why now, amidst this economic meltdown?

         

Webwork

2:03 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Are you still rolling the domain dice, even though money is tight?

Why?

Do you have a strategy for this economy?

Me? I've slowed down considerably during the past 2 years but not stopped entirely with speculative fresh registrations. I rarely spend time searching. I haven't bought more than one or two domains at auction, in the past year, though there were some tempting "bargains".

I've spend some "down time" focusing on finding a few fresh regs mostly in the healthcare space, real estate, and legal verticals. Domains that I evaluate as having the highest PPC earnings potential, the likelihood of enough traffic in a year to cover the domain's cost, and a higher likelihood of resale when the economy recovers.

You?

jmccormac

2:10 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Try asking the same question on Twitter or some of the domainer forums. There is a domainer community on twitter and domains are being registered and traded.

Regards...jmcc

Webwork

2:23 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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jmcc, I think I get your reply. You're saying "Yes, there's signs of ongoing speculative domain activity and, like everything else, there are people exploiting the latest technology to do domain business.

Tweeting domains. Who woulda thunk! :P

The amount of self-promotional, promo packaged as questions, etc. "noise" elsewhere has increased - markedly. Bleh. So I'm returning to my WebmasterWorld roots. The question is posed here - for any and all to address. :P

So, back on track: Who's still in the game? What drives you at this time?

[edited by: Webwork at 2:31 pm (utc) on Mar. 13, 2009]

IanTurner

2:41 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Do you have a strategy for this economy?

Yes - buy, buy and more buying. If you think its a bargain in this economy it will definitely be a bargain in a booming economy.

Webwork

3:06 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Some obvious targets, carefully chosen, even in this down economy:
  • Bankruptcy
  • Refinancing
  • Foreclosures (I cringe, and don't pursue, but it's there)
  • Boomers
  • Boomers with aging parents
  • Health and stress
  • Stretching a buck, bargain hunting, DIY
  • People moving about in search of jobs
  • Did I say jobs? Work? Employment?

There are always emerging demographic, economic, business and social trends.

IanTurner

4:06 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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No need to give everything away.

jmccormac

4:33 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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jmcc, I think I get your reply. You're saying "Yes, there's signs of ongoing speculative domain activity and, like everything else, there are people exploiting the latest technology to do domain business.
Yep. There is activity but there has been too much concentration on high value sales. Those have, I think fallen off and will continue to fall. If anything the competition has increased on these forums as resale values have fallen. I think that the volume of low value sales and near regfee sales is going to increase dramatically this year however it won't hit until the last quarter (effectively the anniversary + grace/redemption period of the easy credit disappearing).

Tweeting domains. Who woulda thunk! :P
Well 140 characters is more than enough for some domains. :) However a lot of domaining is trend driven and trends like Twitter are natural extensions for domaining and domainers.

The amount of self-promotional, promo packaged as questions, etc. "noise" elsewhere has increased - markedly.
It is a lot easier to filter on Twitter. However doing so on a forum is more difficult.

So, back on track: Who's still in the game? What drives you at this time?
Simple answer? Survival.

Regards...jmcc

Webwork

4:39 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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No need to give everything away.

:)

But . . I haven't . . yet.

I mean, I haven't talked about other important factors like 1) search volume; 2) search trends related to topic; 3) PPC and enduser values and projections about PPC; 4) timing; 5) PPC lander optimization, to get a truer sense of value; 6) . . . :P

As always, interesting observations jmcc, very "data driven" - which is your special (and appreciated) contribution to the domain dialogue. Thanks, as always.

[edited by: Webwork at 4:41 pm (utc) on Mar. 13, 2009]

HuskyPup

6:02 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)



I'm dropping the odd renewal here and there for things such as iwidget and iwidgets etc however in the last couple of months I have bought for new clients some specific .co.uk names for their businesses such as locationkeyword1keyword2 and these sites have steamed straight into the SERPs and have really upset some of the local, well-established business sites!

This has actually given me an idea to register some more and I think Webwork suggested this last year?

I keep looking at some of the names being dropped etc yet haven't seen anything that takes my fancy.

I had to renew a load of widget .mobis last week, heck, they seemed expensive! I'm going to put most of those up for sale since I know I'm never going to get round to using them.

jmccormac

3:25 pm on Mar 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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As always, interesting observations jmcc, very "data driven" - which is your special (and appreciated) contribution to the domain dialogue. Thanks, as always.
Perhaps I don't intellectualise the business as much :), Webwork,
There is definitely a massive shift towards ccTLDs and some veteran .com domainers (Rick Latona with his new found faith in ccTLDs for example) have recently discovered what a lot of us ccTLD heads have known for some time - ccTLDs are far better for some markets than a generic .com or .net domain. One of the areas where a lot of people are going to be wrong footed, in my opinion, is .mobi. For the last few months (since September 2008), .mobi has been in its Junk Dump phase when a lot of the landrush rubbish that could not be flipped or sold gets dropped. TLDs generally shrink by 10% or more during this period. However there is a trend that most domainers never see because it is only visible to those of us who track domain stats - the New-Deleted ratio. This is the ratio of new domains in a period to deleted domains in the same period. It is positive when an extension is growing but dips during landrush anniversaries and other events. For the last few months it has been negative and it spiked in December 2008 at 0.3305 (22787 new and 68946 deleted). Today (compared with 01/March/2009) the ratio was around 0.9743 (15999 new and 16421 deleted) so .mobi as a zone may start to grow in April. The .asia gTLD has been a bit of a washout for those hoping for a quick profit. The current count is 246222. That's up only 1026 domains from the 01/March/2009 figure of 245196. Apart from the obvious lack of a single Asian political identity (like the European Union with .eu) the main competition for .asia gTLD is from the ccTLDs - .cn at over 13M, .jp, .au and .kr at over 1M each and .in at over 490K. There is still a lot of room for speculation but the nature of the speculation has changed. Some speculators have gotten smarter. However there seems to be a greater emphasis on buy to development rather than buy to park.

Regards...jmcc