Thanks
k
If it is a desirable (read: valuable) domain, you can expect many people to go after it. Your only chance to get it is by using a backorder service, which will automate attempts to register the domain, the moment it expires.
except the undesireable ones that is
Not necessarily true. I have in the recent months bought or backordered quite a few good domains which expired or had a successful backorder on.
Again, Thanks the help, much appreciated.
k
If I backorder the domain w/ its registrar and a auction house at the sametime, what most likely to be happen? would I be competing again myself? What's your experience?
I was once in this situation. I placed a backorder at the registrar where the domain was previously registered and at the same time placed a backorder with an auction site. I had expected that the original registrar would be able to keep the domain once it would be deleted and pass it to me for the backorder fee, but that was not the case. Instead, it was grabbed by the auction site. I was happy at that moment that I also had placed my backorder at the auction site, because there were more people interested in this specific domain and by bidding in the auction I had a second chance to obtain the domain.
As far as I have checked, there was no connection between the original registrar and the auction site, so in my opinion the domain wasn't transferred to the auction site on purpose to increase revenues.
You can be much more proactive than just waiting for it to drop. Do a whois search, find the registrar, and bid at the auction of that registrar's preferred auction partner. Most domains are sold of before they drop, these days, except the undesireable ones that is!
The domain kenichi is refering to is already in Redemption Period. Whatever auctions there may have been are already over. Auctions for expiring names occur during Registrar Hold, which is the cycle before Redemption Period.
except the undesireable ones that isNot necessarily true. I have in the recent months bought or backordered quite a few good domains which expired or had a successful backorder on.
You left out 1 most important word from your quote. I said, most.
There are two types of auctions. One type is done by the registrar before the redemption period is entered. Not all registrars do this however. The second type is done by independent auction sites. They try to grab domain names as soon as they come come available.
It's not quite so simple as that. Those independant auction houses (ie snapnames) are not quite so independant, since they have preferred auction partner status with many registrars, which makes them look more like an "in-house" auction house (ie tdnam). Although most auction houses also behave like a dropcatcher (ie pool) trying to capture dropped domains. Pool also blur the issue by having preferred partner registrars and behaving like an auction house. It's a competitive world out there.
The domain kenichi is refering to is already in Redemption Period. Whatever auctions there may have been are already over. Auctions for expiring names occur during Registrar Hold, which is the cycle before Redemption Period.
I'm not sure that's entirely true, but if it is, then I've learned something new. Only those registrars with in-house auction partners could do this, I think? To my knowledge, it's maybe only Enom/ClubDrop which practices this. Who else?
I did have an auction house account but don't have any actual experience in obtain any domains from them, their base price start at $60, usually more then what the registrar charge, I have a feeling if I place a bid from the auction house the price most likely increase(being paranoid as usual) isn't a better idea to do backorder directly from its registrar? If I backorder the domain w/ its registrar and a auction house at the sametime, what most likely to be happen? would I be competing again myself? What's your experience?
This largely depends on the registrar and auction house. I think the 2 biggest registrars pass your backorder directly to their preferred auction partner, for example.
I think you can place backorders wherever you like and not have a big chance of competing against yourself. Of course, the paranoid in us all thinks it's a possibility :)
Someone (registrar/auctionhouse/dropcatcher) will always get the first bite at the cherry. You need to have placed your backorder with the place that gets that first bite, so that you can participate in the ensuing auction, assuming there is more than one bidder, else you win by default. It doesn't matter a hoot if another bidder has offered more at another auction house if that auction house doesn't get the first bite.
How do I check if they have entered redemption? Can anyone give me a url.
Secondly, who do I go to in order to sort out this mess?
The domain retailer I used have completely ignored any requests for help (namebot.net) not even replying to my genuine requests.
If your reseller is ignoring your requests for help, you should go straight to the registrar, which in this case is enom.
find the registrar, and bid at the auction of that registrar's preferred auction partner
I'm not sure that's entirely true, but if it is, then I've learned something new. Only those registrars with in-house auction partners could do this, I think? To my knowledge, it's maybe only Enom/ClubDrop which practices this. Who else?
Since you qualified your statement with "preferred auction partner", I was referring to SnapNames.
