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There is an interesting domain name that I didn't wanted at first... somebody saw it and bought it and then I found out that it was important for me to have it. Fortunately, that person DIDN'T renewed the domain, so it expired. Yes, the domain expired, so I supposed to be able of buying it, right?
I checked the registrar info and it says the domain expired days ago. There is no update or renewal. BUT, everytime I tried to buy it, it says I cannot... now the owner is a domain name company, how can you buy a domain name that really has no owner? (there is no new expiration date, only the old one, already expired)
The redemption grace period is a 30-day window that occurs when a domain registrant fails to renew a domain’s registration. Instead of being deleted and returned to the pool of domain names available for registration, the name is held for a 30-day grace period during which the original domain registrant may retrieve the domain name (for an additional fee) by contacting the domain registrar. If the registrant fails to retrieve the domain during this 30-day window, it is deleted at the registry.
An expiring domain enters the redemption grace period on the 12th day following its expiration date. Prior to this, we – the registrar – attempt to auto-renew the domain registration, and if that fails we notify you of the domain’s impending expiration/deletion via email message. The redemption period begins when/if our third and final auto-renewal attempt fails for the domain in question.
One week into the redemption period, the expired domain – assuming its registration has not been renewed – is placed into a 10-day domain auction, allowing prospective registrants to bid on the domain. The winner of the auction obtains the domain registration ownership two weeks after the end of the auction if the original owner fails to renew the registration by the end of the redemption period.
Once the redemption period ends – and the domain has neither been renewed nor obtained through auction or backordering – the domain is deleted at the registry. The domain name re-enters the public pool of available domains. It is no longer redeemable.
Though this 30-day period extends the time available to renew an expired domain, all names that enter the redemption period are removed from the zone files (the list of domains currently in the global DNS). Therefore, any Web site or email services associated with the domain name will stop working. It is, therefore, strongly recommended that you renew your domain registration before the domain name enters the redemption state.
Note I said option. It's not necessarily something they have to do.
So the domain name in question has since been acquired by the new registrant like you said, meaning the domain name has been renewed and all that?
Most of the confusion, yes I know it sounds like that, comes from readings here and there, especially here... as even some whois search have triggered domains to be bought and the other day are NOT available. So, I still want to be careful on that.
thanks for the input, well see what happens
This is especially true if the owner has let the domain expire. They don't seem to be that bothered about the name, so they will probably be very happy to renew the domain and sell it for a good price - a price that's likely to be much lower than what you'll have to bid in the auction.
It's a gamble, of course, because they might just decide to sit on it despite your offer.
I DONT want to trigger the renewal from the old owner
The owner cannot renew a domain which is in Pending Delete status. They can, like you, place a backorder on the domain at a dropcatcher. Which dropcatcher depends on where it's registered. For 99.9% sure place backorder at all dropcatchers. If nobody else bids on the domain, it's yours for $60, else you're in a (usually) 3 day bidding war against whoever else bid on the domain at the winning dropcatcher. Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. It's better to backorder it than to wait for it to drop. You considerably increase your chances of getting the domain. You can also drop out of an auction if it starts going too high. You are least in the satisafactory position of knowing you've tried, as well as knowing that you would never have got the domain if just waited for it to drop.
I followed this domain and YES, the annual period is over... so, the "owner" message is just a trash message... the domain has expired. Weird hu?