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Sunday Times (Ireland) Covers The .eu Fiasco

78% of Irish companies' sunrise applications rejected

         

jmccormac

12:22 pm on Oct 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sunday Times cover the .eu Fiasco:

[timesonline.co.uk...]

The rejection rates for Irish companies during sunrise is over 78%.

The rejection rate for UK companies during sunrise is over 81%.

EURid and PwC BE thinks that it is because their "validation" process is working. Though EURid pockets the fees for rejected applications and it has made nearly 6 Million Euros (approx US $7.5 Million) from rejecting applications so far. Apparently UK rejection rates are running high too. If the EURid people ever turn up at a trade show in the UK or Ireland, I'm sure that people will take the opportunity to recover their the application fees.

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Quadrille

2:05 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There's lots of possible explanations for that;

1. The validation system works, and lots of domain-squatters didn't read the small print.

2. Many names attracted several appropriate applicants, only one of whom could win.

3. Many applications were honest but invalid - again, not reading the small print.

But, to be honest, I'm surprised there were enough applicants to provide viable stats. The whole thing is a pointless exercise, and a total waste of money.

If biz and info were scams (which they were), then this one has scam written in neon lights 3 feet high. Sorry, three metres high.

jmccormac

2:28 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There's lots of possible explanations for that;

1. The validation system works, and lots of domain-squatters didn't read the small print.

These were businesses trying to secure the .eu equivalent of their ccTLD domain.

2. Many names attracted several appropriate applicants, only one of whom could win.
The cases I've looked at had only one application for the domain.

3. Many applications were honest but invalid - again, not reading the small print.
I'm not so sure. I think that PwC BE were just troughing through the applications and employing mere formalisms to increase throughput (and reject as many applications as possible) while ignoring the whole purpose of the sunrise phases (to protect prior rights).

But, to be honest, I'm surprised there were enough applicants to provide viable stats. The whole thing is a pointless exercise, and a total waste of money.
Well the comments I've heard about EURid and PwC BE were not printable. A lot of businesses, the core of any TLD's credibility, have been burned by this so .eu is effectively dead as a domain for business in Ireland and the UK. Indeed I doubt EURid's stats on the number of UK registrations because most of the bogus registrars are using UK front companies to register .eu domains.

If biz and info were scams (which they were), then this one has scam written in neon lights 3 feet high. Sorry, three metres high.
Maybe the next time some EU politician turns up claiming that .eu was a success, someone can explain to them in simple terms, that it was a 419er operation. And then they should get their money back.

Regards...jmcc

Quadrille

4:08 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just one small point:

>> These were businesses trying to secure the .eu
>> equivalent of their ccTLD domain.

How can we know that; I'm not defending the sellers for one second, but I find it hard to believe that all the buyers were honest men.

Domain buying is an industry, and many not-so-fussy middlemen would happily have taken 'investors' money, and been just as happy for validation to make the applications null and void.

After all, 'industrial strength' domain buyers have abused most domain suffixes since day 1 - why would eu be any different?

jmccormac

4:46 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just one small point:

>> These were businesses trying to secure the .eu
>> equivalent of their ccTLD domain.

How can we know that; I'm not defending the sellers for one second, but I find it hard to believe that all the buyers were honest men.

These were the cases I looked at here in Ireland. They were businesses trying to secure the .eu variant of their .ie and or company identity. Most of them were gullible enough to fall for the EU propaganda and spent hundreds of Euros putting applications together. They were very different from the squatters and cyberwarehousers that used dodgy Benelux ampersand trademarks. The cost of submitting an application for a domain in Sunrise 2 acted as a deterent. Though I have criticised the Irish .ie registry (IEDR) in the past, it is a model of efficiency when compared to the cretinously managed EURid and the bumbling robots in PwC BE. The SME section of a ccTLD gives it credibility. The only thing that EURid and PwC BE has managed to do is to remove that credibility and sell the .eu ccTLD to speculators and warehousers.

Regards...jmcc