non eu resident register eu domains

your experience and advices

[guiona]

I'm non eu citizen (also live and work outside EU) . I found some great domains and want to register them for resale. I would like to know, if my relatives are citizens and residents of EU can I use they contacts (someone of them) as registrant of domains if they know and agree with that. Or maybe better to use relative's company as european registrant address.
If company activity is subject1 so may I use that company as registrant of my domain names with subject2, subject3..- non relevant to my company activity.

[John Carpenter]

The EU domains are only for EU residents or businesses with their main office in the EU. If you don't meet these criteria, you can't register a EU domain.

The question you are actually asking here is: How can I violate the rules without them noticing?

[John Carpenter]

If you deliberately violate or circumvent the rules and they find out (for example, after someone interested in buying the squatted domain notifies them), don't be surprised if you lose the domain name without any compensation. It's similar to tax evasion (though not as weighty) -- you can do it easily, but if you get caught (usually when a "friend" of yours reports you), you face the consequences.

[edited by: John_Carpenter at 12:47 pm (utc) on Aug. 4, 2006]

[OptiRex]

If you deliberately violate or circumvent the rules and they find out......you face the consequences.

Wow!

The full weight of the bloated EU bureacracy system bearing down on someone...scary...they can't even sign off their own accounts therefore they'll not even bother chasing one person for a few domain transfers.

It would never happen.

[jmccormac]

helping or encouraging someone to violate the rules of a legitimate system is generally frowned upon.

Well EURid's operation of the .eu gTLD is so completely banjaxed that it has difficulty in telling the difference between a massive cyberwarehousing operation and a single domain. Indeed I've seen some .eu domains with registrant addresses like Sofia, Bulgaria, United Kingdom and another with an obviously Chinese street name/address in Rome. If the domains are registered to an EU resident or EU company then technically they are legal registrations. But the trick is to be careful because speculative and bad faith registrations are specifically referred to in the rules governing the .eu gTLD. That makes it different from almost all other gTLDs.

Regards...jmcc

[guiona]

Thanks for advices. Registrant address must be EU but Admin, Technical and Billing can be local. Also im confused, how Eurid will check registrant address. May be by phone? If someone will point not EU phone number. It's legal?

[OptiRex]

Also im confused, how Eurid will check registrant address. May be by phone?

No checks are made whatsoever. If it appears to be an EU address, they accept it is an EU address.

If someone will point not EU phone number. It's legal?

No phone checks are made either however it possibly may create a slight problem when transferring a name since fax authorisation is required. Whether they're bothered which country the fax comes from I doubt it just so long as everything tallys.

There are many mutlinationals who have registered their .eu trademarks with legal contact addresses etc at their head offices in non-EU countries.

[vite_rts]

If you acquire property in the EU by making statements or representation which are not consistent with the facts, you might

face

forfeiture of those assets

prosecution by the other party for acquiring property using means
that could not be described as entirely truthful.

So say you try to sell the domains an the other party finds out who you are, where you are, as they must surely do,,,,,

Would you buy an asset from any entity that was not entitled to holding that asset?

Would you sell an asset for anyone who was neither entitled to hold that asset or to sell that asset

its a small world you know