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Tracing nameserver host for DMCA

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Angonasec

6:13 am on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)



Some irresponsible gamers have set up a site and stolen copyright content from us. They have ignored polite notices to remove it, and their site is hosted on a nameserver used by another domain which whois shows they also own.

Like this:

Infringing domain hosted on NS also owned by the same Infringers.

So how do I trace the upstream host of the nameserver to send them a DMCA?

No copyright agents listed for either domain (of course).

The site has been shut down previously in response to somebody else's DMCA so it should work, once I trace them.

Thanks!

stapel

5:15 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I wouldn't send the infringers the DMCA notice. In my experience, it is highly unlikely that they would even respond, let alone comply.

To find the host, ping the domain name. This will return an IP address. Do a whois search on the IP to find who owns that block. Poke around that site to find their copyright policy, and send the notice to them.

The nameserver is pretty much irrelevant to the issue of copyright infringement, to my knowledge.

Eliz.

Angonasec

12:29 am on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)



I have their IP from the Whois search, but
little else because it uses private whois info.

"Do a whois search on the IP to find who owns that block."

Now that is new to me. You mean enter their IP into a whois search, and send a DMCA to the owners of their IP BLOCK.

That sounds useful, previously I've only DMCA'd infringer's hosts.

I'll get digging.

Angonasec

12:48 am on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)



I've changed the IPs to keep within WebmasterWorld rules:

The infringer's IP results in a whois like this:

Netblock: 12.34.56.0/25
NetUse : loopback ips for 98.765.432.10
Coordinator:
WebHost WebHost abuse@example.com

The WebHost example.com merely shows the default Plesk page in a browser, so I assume that is the infringer's own server. Correct?

But when I do a whois on the

NetUse : loopback ips for 98.765.432.10

I find that is nac.net, a biggish US IP who have a page to report abuse etc.

Would they be the ones to contact and DMCA about this?
Or is there somebody below them who'd be the next to contact?

Thanks for your help In trying to interpret the whois data.

stapel

9:01 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Please check your "sticky" messages.
Thank you.

Angonasec

12:14 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)



Thank you, I appreciate that.

I've already DMCAd nac.net about the infringing site, so I'll wait to hear from them first.

They seem to have a fairly 'responsible' abuse policy, so if the infringing site is using the NAC pipe, it will be acted on.

Ta!

eeek

6:02 am on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



their site is hosted on a nameserver

Sites aren't hosted on name servers. Do a whois on their IP address and find out who's providing service to them. Then send DMCA take-down notices.