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mheinjr

10:51 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For some reason... I go to my web page and it doesn't work, wait like 30s-1m and it works. Maybe there is someone looking at it? It's not letting more than 1? I don't know could anyone give me a hand with this?

Anyone else experience this?

Thanks, Mark

jdMorgan

11:28 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mark,

Welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com]!

Unfortunately, there are any number of things that could cause this -- it's a rather non-specific problem. I'd suspect that any server that took 30 seconds to serve a page would probably crash all the time, thus drawing attention to itself from the technical support team.

Some things that could cause long delays, from the outside in:

Rotten Internet connection
Non-cacheable page with too many included images
Slow and improperly-configured DNS
Incorrect configuration of server in httpd.conf (causing a redirect loop)
Incorrect configuration of directories in .htaccess (causing a redirect loop)
Faulty scripting, e.g. PHP or PERL (looping or causing lots of non-fatal errors)
Excessive checking of reverse-DNS of requestor's IP addresses
Meta-refresh on page - intentional
Meta-refresh on page - hacked/hijacked page
Lots of other things I can't think of :)

The first step to take is to see what a 'raw' request/response looks like. Try accessing your page by its complete and correct URL using this Server Headers Checker [webmasterworld.com] tool. You might also want to try accessing your site by its IP address, if you have a unique/non-shared IP address for your site.

Look for 301 and 302 redirects, rather than the expected 200-OK response (try other sites and compare, too).

If this doesn't shed some light on the problem, and your hosting service is no help, please post some more 'background' info on your server set-up - that might help get better answers.

Jim

mheinjr

11:52 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK first I should tell you about my server :)

I have a cable modem I go to a Specific ip, I don't have a address tied to the ip address.

It really isn't a web page. Well I have it so when you go to port 80 it is just a black page so there is not alot of graphics... I have folders that hold pictures for myself, and people can download them. I will try what you said, but I am just letting you know a little background on this...

[68.**.215.146...]

Thanks, Mark

[edited by: jdMorgan at 12:29 am (utc) on Dec. 31, 2003]
[edit reason] No specifics, please - Per WebmasterWorld TOS [/edit]

mheinjr

1:38 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:34:55 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.47 (Win32)
Last-Modified: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:30:46 GMT
ETag: "50d924e0-74-4b07a180"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 116
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Respond time 21 seconds...

Is everything here ok?

jdMorgan

6:01 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mark,

That response looks fine. I'm at a loss to say why your server is so slow. :(

Hopefully, someone else will check in here with some ideas.

Jim

mheinjr

7:21 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It just don't make sence cause after I did that it took 21 seconds, and I did it again and boom it only took 1 sec.... It's weird, and at the moment it's not loading........

Mark

robho

1:47 am on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try searching Google for "very slow Apache 2.0.47 windows xp" and combinations like that. It seems like this is not an uncommon problem, others complain of things like "it takes about 10 seconds before it begins loading the next page.".

Looks likely the problem is with Windows on the server (memory leaks?). Didn't spot any solutions (apart from Linux...) but presumably somebody has found one somewhere.

mheinjr

3:32 am on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hmm I just looked in my error.log file and I see a bunch of these....
[Sat Dec 27 15:45:00 2003] [error] [client 206.49.217.149] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/scripts
[Sat Dec 27 16:52:12 2003] [error] [client 65.61.161.173] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/NULL.printer
[Sat Dec 27 21:56:39 2003] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/gcache.php
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:03 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/scripts
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/MSADC
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/c
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/d
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/scripts
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/_vti_bin
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/_mem_bin
[Sat Dec 27 22:44:04 2003] [error] [client 68.44.79.190] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/msadc

Than I look a little further and I see this... Whats this mean?

[Tue Dec 30 19:28:54 2003] [error] [client 64.68.82.7] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/robots.txt
[Tue Dec 30 22:06:57 2003] [warn] (OS 64)The specified network name is no longer available. : winnt_accept: Asynchronous AcceptEx failed.
[Tue Dec 30 22:07:02 2003] [warn] (OS 64)The specified network name is no longer available. : winnt_accept: Asynchronous AcceptEx failed.

Any Idea's? I don't know what scripts... all that other stuff is. What is someone trying to request that directory or file?

Thanks, Mark

aodonline

6:55 am on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Looks like some one maybe trying to comprimise your machine. Theres a known flaw in Microsoft Front Page 2002 exstions.

Some of those errors are 404 errors from someone looking for Front Page exstions that don't exsist or that people accessing port 80 on your machine, don't have access to.

So either your site is slow cause some one is hammering on it, or you have an issue with Apache and XP as was noted earlier in this thread.

{Edit}
Do a google on your last set of errors. Its a memory problem which would explain the sometimes slow or no responce.

I myself would stick to Apache 1.3.xx on windows just yet.

I run 1.3.2x on mine.

mheinjr

1:47 pm on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I download 1.329, but there is no start screen like 2.0.....

1.3 apache.exe has a block dos like screen that says apache is running

Is that all it gives me?

aodonline

4:08 pm on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes, that an the monitor icon that sits in your system tray if you opted to install it.

Look in your start menu, there links to everything you need.