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Amazon Associate Program V.S. Google AdSense

Which one is better?

         

iloveu

10:54 pm on Apr 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2 different thing, seems to be difficult to compare. But which one is better for webmasters to get extra money? Amazon states its associates can earn a lot of commission, is that true?

MovingOnUp

12:07 pm on Apr 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Toyota Tacoma vs. Toyota Prius. Which is better? It depends. Are you going to be hauling stuff? Do you need seating for more than two? Does fuel economy matter?

The same goes with Amazon.com vs. Google AdSense. Do your visitors buy stuff? Is your site niche a high-paying niche in AdSense? Are you able to pick out specific products that your visitors have a high likelyhood of being interested in? How much work do you want to put into it? Do you mind only getting paid once a quarter?

Why not put both up and see which does better?

Pedent

12:53 pm on Apr 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think people generally find AdSense easier to make money from, if only because AdSense pays when people click but Amazon only pays when they buy. To make Amazon outperform AdSense, you're likely to have to do a lot more than just stick a generic link on your homepage. I'm sure it can be done, though (depending on your niche / visitors).

wrgvt

4:37 pm on Apr 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I make greater than 20 times more from amazon than AdSense. Then again, I work every day on at least one of my sites, and I add detailed product pages at the rate of about 10 per week across all my sites. For some of my sites, I drive traffic with AdWords, other sites I let natural SERPS and return visitors generate my traffic. Some of my sites feature products that cost less than $20, so those sites will never do great with AdSense since my CPC is usually less than a dime.

There is no simple answer. If you're looking to be an amazon affiliate by throwing up a few banners and links, or creating a shopping site that looks like every other amazon shopping site, then you won't make much from amazon. If you just throw up a unfocused web site and expect tons of traffic to generate AdSense income for you, then you will probably be disappointed in that too.

This isn't a get rich quick scheme without a lot of planning, work, experimentation, and learning.

TrustNo1

7:27 pm on Apr 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What's been said already. Try both out, then figure out which one is paying you most per click. You get traffic, you send it out. Find out who is paying you most for that click by figuring out your EPC with Adsense and Amazon.

hunderdown

3:29 am on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)



You might even do best with both. I use both on my site. Some of my best -performing pages in AdSense also do very well for Amazon...

berto

10:50 pm on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I do both Amazon and Adsense on my sites. Which is better? I'm beginning to prefer Amazon (and other affiliate programs), despite the fact that, to this point, it doesn't necessarily earn me more revenue than Adsense. Why?

With Amazon, I feel more in control. I make a change or two, and I can usually observe "rational" effects. Amazon makes more sense to me.

Adsense, on the other hand, is like a "black box." Why it behaves the way it does is more often an unfathomable mystery.

With Amazon ads, icons, and links, I can specify exactly what, when, and where. With Adsense ads, I can specify the where, not always the when (when PSAs or blanks show instead of ads), and to only a limited extent the what.

At one of my sites, I get about ten times as many Amazon clicks (not necessarily conversions) as I do Adsense clicks. I am able to nudge the Amazon "CTR" upward, but the Adsense CTR seems to be largely beyond my ability to affect it much. I understand how and why my Amazon clicks are as high as they are, but I am confounded why my Adsense click counts remain so low.

With Adsense, I have to worry about clicking on my own ads, or about others committing click fraud. With Amazon, I don't have this constant fear that I could be booted from the program at any time.

Adsense is seductive. Its near real-time data and richer set of channel and other controls and reporting options encourage endless, real-time tinkering. With no channel options and only next-day, once-a-day statistics, Amazon somehow seems less "sexy". (I check my "boring" Amazon stats first thing in the morning, then I'm done with it. With Adsense, and like so many other people, I check my stats many times a day.) Compared to the lively and interesting Adsense forums, WW's Amazon and affiliate marketing forums are less active, seem dull.

Give both a try. But there's more important things in a lasting relationship than the "sex". Don't be surprised if over time you become more devoted to Amazon.

shri

8:14 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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$5ish CPM on Adsense and $20ish CPM on amazon/affiliates on a product related site.

If you're in the right position in the serps for the right keywords the visitors want to buy.

Different set of keywords the visitors want to continue browsing.

Also depends on which engines you get the traffic from.

iloveu

12:41 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site is not information site. I am selling electronic accessories, and have detailed product descriptions, I want to transfer traffic to other sites to buy the products what I don't have. I think Amazon is better, since AdSense will lead the traffic to my competitors' sites, which definately harm my future business. What do you think of it?

wrgvt

3:36 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Let's assume there's two type of people who visit your pages about electronics accessories: those who are in the mood to buy something specific and are looking for more information, and those who are just casually curious.

If your web pages do a good job of pre-selling your items to the first group or people, then they will ignore the AdSense ads and click through to amazon to buy the items. The products you feature have to be competitive and you have to have information on your site that will satisfy their needs so they want to click through and buy.

With the second group, if you have a really good deal for them, they may click through to amazon right away and buy. If they're not in a buying mood at all, they read your content and filed it away perhaps for future reference. Now they're still curious, they see your AdSense ads, one catches their eye, and they're off.

With amazon and AdSense on the same site, you can make money from both groups of visitors. If you'd like to block other amazon affiliates ads from showing up in your AdSense ads, then you can block those with the AdSense filter.

Oimachi2

2:10 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do people actually make money from Amazon?

Zygoot

2:42 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>Do people actually make money from Amazon?

Yes, I almost earned $2k since December 2004.

wsp9

3:24 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The key with Amazon or any affiliate program are the data feeds(i.e. free content). With these feeds you can build a big directory site instantly and start harvesting search engine traffic rather quickly. Slap some adsense on there and you'll probably get a 5% ctr along with a few affiliate purchases every day. It's really that simple.

hunderdown

4:15 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



The data feeds are NOT necessarily the key with Amazon. There are thousands of sites out there that are essentially Amazon clones, because they've been built using the data feeds. They generally don't rank well on Google unless the owner has added some unique content.

Some sites do well by writing their own reviews, focusing on products of interest to their target audience. I do. Quite a few of the people who post on the Amazon Associates forum (at Amazon, not here) do too.

Depends on what you want to do.

Oimachi2

4:32 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What is a data feed?

wsp9

4:49 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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A datafeed is basically a product catalog that you get from the vendor(eg Amazon). They come in the form of spreadsheets, flat files, or in the case of amazon, webservices which you need to tap into programmatically. And these feeds include product names, descriptions, prices, etc. They're honestly the quickest way to build a site and start boosting your traffic levels. Of course having a programmer or knowing how to program helps the situation a little. If you want to see some quick action, then data feeds are the key. I don't have the patience to do my own reviews or product descriptions or have people post comments about the product. That's just too tedious and not the point anyway. I'm selling tens of thousands of products I've never seen ,know nothing about, and really don't care about. Skill and experience at setting up a site properly - optimizing for search engines - is also essential. Don't attempt to clone amazon. Instead form your own template of what you would like to see if you were the visitor and keep the clutter to a minimum.

hunderdown

6:13 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



wsp9: that's the thing if you are working with a datafeed. You have to know what you are doing. The site has to make sense to the visitors, and it has to rank in the SEs, which isn't as easy as it used to be--recent changes at Google seem to have pushed Amazon datafeed sites down in the results.

There are people using the Amazon datafeed to earn a very nice living. But there are many more who are making pocket change.

To take this discussion back to the original question, if you are able to get good traffic, and even better if you aren't paying for it, you can build both AdSense and Amazon links into a site and do well. You can do that with the datafeed, or with a hand-crafted site....

ScadSense

12:36 am on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



What Amazon-affilate income could be generated from a single site with 10+K daily unique visitors - general-interest traffic? It's a hypothetical question with real-world implications. Assume that a weekly update on the homepage or subpage of "buy these top sellers" would be getting 5K visitors per day.

Zygoot - if you can say, 2k on how much traffic?

Zygoot

12:58 am on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>Zygoot - if you can say, 2k on how much traffic?

My website gets about 13k unique visitors a day but the Amazon links are only placed on a very small part of my website. The bulk of the $2,000 was made during Jan-Feb. Since March Amazon sales have dropped dramatically :(

The Q1 2005 Amazon report shows about 12,000 clicks and a few percent of those bought something at Amazon.