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Programs for kids under eighteen

Adsense is out, do any others have age restrictions?

         

Jane_Doe

11:20 pm on Oct 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I want to help my kids set up some sites of their own and have some income of their own. I can't hire them to work for me because of some tax limitations the way my business is set up.

I know Adsense requires you to be 18 or over, does anyone know if any of the other major advertising or affiliate programs do or do not have any similar age restrictions?

LifeinAsia

11:45 pm on Oct 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why not just setup an additional business and hire them through that one?

Jane_Doe

11:53 pm on Oct 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why not just setup an additional business and hire them through that one?

I have to check on that - I think I might need to have the income in their names or it falls under a common controlled group if I own or control all of the businesses.

hunderdown

2:41 am on Oct 17, 2006 (gmt 0)



Amazon?

milliondollarman

11:04 pm on Oct 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hey,

Just wondering how much traffic and uniques your kids site get?

-Steve

[edited by: eljefe3 at 3:23 am (utc) on Oct. 18, 2006]

Jane_Doe

12:50 am on Oct 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering how much traffic and uniques your kids site get?

None, right now. They don't even have any web sites yet. But before too long I have a feeling they will be getting enough traffic to earn around $4,400 each annually. :)

hannamyluv

3:18 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not that I am encouraging anything illegal, but has adsense ever asked you for your id to verify your age?

What's the chances they will ask your kids? ;)

Beyond that, you may not be able to hire your kids as employees, but can you hire them as contractors?

Beagle

3:40 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Programs that I've seen require the person signing the agreement to be of legal age to enter into a contract, which makes sense since otherwise the whole thing is unenforceable. You might check to see if any programs would allow you to sign for your children as parent/guardian.

Jane_Doe

7:06 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Beyond that, you may not be able to hire your kids as employees, but can you hire them as contractors?

Hannamyluv, that is an absolutely brilliant suggestion. I'm going to keep that in mind. :)

Actually, I think I might break down and hire them as employees of my company. The problem is if I have even one employee, I have to change my retirement plan to one with lower contribution limits.

But on the plus side, because I have employees, the new plan would be an ERISA covered retirement plan. Plus, I can set up retirement plans for them, and their first $5,150 in salary (2006) is not taxable.

(I thought the limit was $4400 instead of $5,150 which is why my earlier post referring to $4400 probably made no sense to anyone.)

This is a good article on the subject if anyone else is interested -

[moneycentral.msn.com...]

[edited by: Jane_Doe at 7:07 pm (utc) on Oct. 19, 2006]

LifeinAsia

8:17 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can't your retirement plan exclude employees that aren't full-time (so hire your kids part-time) or with less than the minimum amount of time in service?

Jane_Doe

8:36 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can't your retirement plan exclude employees that aren't full-time (so hire your kids part-time) or with less than the minimum amount of time in service?

No, it isn't my plan rule it is the government rule. I can't keep the kind of plan I have now if I have any employees at all.

The suggestion of my kids being contractors was a good idea, but after thinking about it since they would not have any other employers they probably would not pass the IRS tests on that point.

Jane_Doe

10:04 pm on Oct 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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FYI - I found out if I set up my own 401K plan (not a solo or simple 401k), I can keep my same contribution limits, hire my kids & deduct their salaries as a business expense, and put money in a retirement account for them that they can use for retirement, college expenses or to buy a house.

The drawback is I have to hire a pension firm to administer the plan, at the cost of a few thousand dollars each year, but it will be worth it in tax savings. Plus, I now have an ERISA covered plan.

utunes

1:21 am on Oct 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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haha, i am 16 years old and i am using my parents information(with permision) and making over $200 a month

benevolent001

3:34 pm on Oct 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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None, right now. They don't even have any web sites yet. But before too long I have a feeling they will be getting enough traffic to earn around $4,400 each annually.

:) thinking of some more kids :)