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anand84

5:26 am on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am building a site for promoting Amazon books. I would like to know if I get paid for a purchase by a visitor who is already an Amazon member but just happens to visit the book through my site. Or I am paid only for new customers.
Also, if he visits Amazon through more than one affiliate links, how will I be paid. Is only the last affiliate website count?

Thanks

Beagle

2:57 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The customer doesn't have to be new - he or she just needs to buy something (you don't get paid for sending someone there; you get a percentage of what they pay for their purchase).

If someone goes to amazon through one of your links and puts something into their shopping cart, that item will have your associate code on it, and when it's paid for the commission will show up in your earnings amount. If it just sits in the shopping cart, or the customer cancels the order, you don't get a commission on it.

The "cookie life" for amazon is shorter than most affiliate prgrams. I can't remember (it'd be in the info on their site, of course), but it might be as short as 24 hours. But as long as the cookie is still active, the customer can leave amazon, come back (say, through the amazon homepage), put more into their cart, and those items will also have your "tag" on them.

--unless the person re-enters through a different associate's link. Then that associate's tag would replace yours.

If a customer returns several times through different affiliates' links, and puts something in the shopping cart each time, then finally completes the sale, each associate will get a commission on whatever items have their "tag" on it - it's when the customer puts it into the cart that counts.

anand84

3:38 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Beagle..that was comprehensive. But 24 hours, it is just too small.. how can i not be rewarded even though i get them customers..

so, how about other book sites like Abebooks and B&N. has someone got experience with these sites as well. Which one do you suggest as the most rewarding.?

PS : Sorry, moderator, i know similar questions might already been answered here, but not able to search inside the site.

hunderdown

7:21 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



In my experience, BN, Powells, Abebooks, etc. are just not as worthwhile as Amazon.

The 24-hour cookie is annoying, but the other bookstores don't convert as well. Amazon does considerably better in spite of that 24-hour cookie.

Also, you have to remember that Amazon is so well known, and has so many existing customers, that with a very few exceptions you are NOT actually getting them new customers. You are persuading an existing customer to get something they might not have known about already, or might not have been able to find on Amazon themselves.

People have been complaining to Amazon about that 24-hour cookie for years, and griping about it on the Associates discussions forum at Amazon. I take it as a fact of life, and I stay with Amazon because my site does well with Amazon anyway.

anand84

3:56 am on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The problem is that I may end up just informing my visitor that one particular book exists at Amazon. And obviously, next time he decides to buy, he might goto Amazon directly; and if this is 24 hours later, I'm doomed..

wonder how many would actually buy a book at first sight..

Beagle

1:39 pm on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hopefully in your "pre-selling," you'll give them a reason to. And remember that at that moment, you just want them to put it into their cart. I don't know if other amazon shoppers do the same thing I do, but if I find something I'm very interested in but don't want to buy at the moment, I'll stick it in my cart so I don't have to look for it again. The length of time it can sit in the cart with your "tag" on it is pretty long - at least a couple of months, IIRC.

Also, if you're really targeting a specific book in a particular link, you can add code to the link so that the customer goes directly to the individual product page, instead of the one with "You clicked on this" and a batch of related items. In my particular niche, the related product pages are a good thing, so I don't use this code and don't know it. You should be able to find it in the associates' area at amazon, or maybe hunderdown knows it?

hunderdown

3:18 pm on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)



anand, I recommend a lot of individual books, and I know that at least some visitors don't buy. That's going to happen with other affiliate programs too--longer cookies are no guarantee.

To link to a specific book, so that you can get the direct-link bonus (and thus earn 7.5% if they buy), the easiest code to use is this:

[amazon.com...]

Put the book's ISBN where it says, and your ID where it says. The "ref=nosim' code ensures that you land on the Amazon product page itself, not a page with "similar" books.

As Beagle says, once a book is in the cart, you will still get credit for it if they check out within the next 90 days.

Suggestion: if you are only recommending one book, put links to all the different places where someone might buy it. You'll find you do much better with the Amazon links. Look in my profile--you can see examples if you go to my site and click on the Book Reviews link on the home page.

Good luck!

wrgvt

4:35 pm on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The problem is that I may end up just informing my visitor that one particular book exists at Amazon. And obviously, next time he decides to buy, he might goto Amazon directly; and if this is 24 hours later, I'm doomed.

I'd suggest your approach is all wrong. If your whole intent is to set a cookie and reap sales from that, you won't be terribly successful. The vast majority of online shoppers know that amazon sells books, and if they've made up their mind to buy a book, they'll go directly to amazon. Amazon knows this, and they're not going to give you a long-duration cookie because of that. You haven't earned that sale. It's not as if your amazon link suddenly educated someone that amazon sells books and they should go there next time they want one.

People who go to other book sites and then click through to amazon are looking for information. They want reviews, synopses, excerpts, author interviews, comparisons, etc. If you can provide them that information and provide an obvious link to amazon to buy it, then you can sell books. Be aware that your content may convince them they want to read a particular book, then they may go to the library, borrow it from a friend, or go to Barnes & Noble/WalMart/Borders and pick it up there.

I've sold almost 700 books via amazon in the last 6 weeks, so it can be done.

anand84

4:47 pm on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Beagle and Underdown; thank you both very much. I think that link can really help me out, though I need to format my page a bit now.

So, the focus should be on getting him to put that book into his cart. That more than suffices to get me my money. thanks.

anand84

4:50 pm on Nov 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yes, wrgvt...I am focussing on building a price comparison site.

I do plan to set up a review section, but believe it will take a long set up time, so I plan to start off with reviewing a cople of books everyweek and building review pages along the way.

anand84

6:09 am on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is there an Amazon associate's link which I can include in google adsense search so that all amazon books are searched from my link when my website visitor searches for a book?

hunderdown

3:51 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



I don't think Google would allow you to set up AdSense search that way.

But you don't need to, anyway. If you want to have a visitor search Amazon, use an Amazon search box, with your Associate ID in the code.

anand84

4:48 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Underdown, the thing is I necessarily require the google search box to search inside my site. So, I feel having a search box for each of the sites would not look good.

Anyway, are you sure, Google doesnt permit that. I couldnt make that out from the TOS.

hunderdown

7:17 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



You could email Google support, but I don't think they allow you to search anything other than your site or the Web, and you can't put suggested keywords in the search box either.

I don't see why you couldn't have a Google search and an Amazon search on the same page. You just need to find the right layout and accompanying text.