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Yahoo Update July 13th

   
12:20 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing a major update...I think?

I say I think b/c it is so bad it seems like a bug. There was also no weather report on the Yahoo! blog.

Anyone else seeing what I am seeing?

8:01 am on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ya, just a tweak ... not sure for the better, but just having a look now. Most of the issues with the latest update remain. Looks like the internal site issues are still there (wrong page/right site) and externally, force is certainly outweighing meaning/intent.

Putting this much emphasis on external links w/o having theming/mapping, authority, and (ideallly) semantic stuff working well is problematic. Issues that arise include:
- quality niche sites with good but not huge numbers of links tend to struggle (I see a little more of that with this tweak, I think)
- searches with words having multiple meanings can be awfully bad
- lots of links with right words can work wonders for a page/site, even if from only vaguely related and unrelated sites.

Add to that heavy handed filters that clip out best pages and feature bad choices from good sites, and you've got a real mixed bag. Link sellers gotta be feeling giddy right now.

8:26 am on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't believe this update had everything to do with authority inbound links as my niche the results are flat out poor! The first 7 out of 10 results have 0 inbound links pointing to them(Not to mention any inbound anchor text). I am also noticing that inbound anchor text to home page is seeming to be a killer for a domain. Anybody else noticing this?

The old ado about Google bombing a competitor would surely hurt somebody with this new Yahoo algo. Put your competitors on some spam link farm and WALLA! This update is an utter mess.

Something else I just noticed...Yahoo indexing it's own clicks of Overture clients PPC ads.....Very interesting Yahoo! Proof that Inktomi spiders PPC ads, not only their own either as I see Google tags as well!

www.domain.com/inktomi_click.asp?product=50805
www.domain.com/index.asp?ad=google

YSM is now turned OFF until further notice!

[edited by: MLHmptn at 8:49 am (utc) on July 21, 2006]

9:17 am on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Seeing fair Results today in my niche, blog sites which were ranking high are gone. Now I am much happy with the results were I am looking at.

Keep it up Yahoo.

10:01 am on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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God God God, My site drop from first to 50. First one now is less than me 5 times quality backlinks! What happened I wonder? How long this dance for?. But all dosent shock me much because Google still likes me!
Seems like all good sites on Yahoo is gone for holiday!

Stop it, Yahoo

2:13 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A site:www search for my domain which is under penalty, showed some positive changes that I thought might be the early stages of penalty removal. 2 of my pages were fully indexed with a description and cache, and some of my dead page links were removed, but the next day, they reverted back to their original indexing of my site containing most of my dead links and an earlier homepage title before I last edited it.

They seem to be in a state of change, but I don't know if it's good or bad for me.

3:40 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The TWEAK they just did really messed things up in our 5 niches. All completely different niches. We got dumpted for EBAY listings, WIKI, SHOPPING.com, BLOGSPOT, AMAZON, and a number of other shopping portals.
3:50 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Seing a little improvement today. (If we can name improvement what is the most obsolete algo compared to GG/MSN)

Well it's not like anyone is searching on Yahoo anymore....when they decide to really work on a serious algorithm instead of trying to put up their PPC ads everywhere...just wake me up!

4:59 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Today I noticed some improvements but I think Yahoo is not able to handle this. A lot of junk is still in the top 10, much more than at the beginning of the year. Results are much less relevant than 6 months ago and there is a traffic decline on yahoo, I feel, although too soon to be sure.
7:36 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Its seems to be a trend in the industry, less relevant results = more money for pay per clicks.
8:28 pm on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Vietnamese "It all not the big deal anyway. Who uses Yahoo for search now?"
Let me tell you that only from some sites that rank very well on Yahoo I make a few thousand backs a month.
3:21 am on Jul 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Seing a little improvement today. (If we can name improvement what is the most obsolete algo compared to GG/MSN)

Based on what I've seen in the last two months I would say all three have their fair share of issues...

Well it's not like anyone is searching on Yahoo anymore....when they decide to really work on a serious algorithm instead of trying to put up their PPC ads everywhere...just wake me up!

When you are getting really serious traffic from Yahoo for keywords you might change your mind on this...

3:27 am on Jul 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont think the changes have improved anything. Actually, I am seeing more irrelevant results, spam and link farms.

I'm certain we will see some more changes in the next few days. These results surely wont remain.

6:14 pm on Jul 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No reason to use Yahoo anymore, since its now a bad copy of google with junk added.
Search engine rankings now for relevancy as of today.
1. Ask.com
2. Google
3. Yahoo and MSM

ranking 3 months ago

1. Yahoo
2. MSM
3. Ask.com
4. Google

As you can see Yahoo and MSN have really been going downhill lately.

7:23 pm on Jul 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Garya, I would also rate Ask as the best. A few months ago Yahoo was providing great results.

But here is a strange thing, when I use Yahoo Australia and do a search for wherever in the world the results look fine, good content, relative results, fine, same apllies if I use Y Singapore, but use the main .com and it's a different story.
Strange but exactly the same happens on M, use the main .com and you get one set of results, use anything like Brazil, Australia, Arabia, Singapore even if searching for say Canada or France!

Anyone have any ideas why South East Asia websites can do very well using Y international sites, regardless of where in the world they are, but can't get anywhere on the main .com?

7:43 pm on Jul 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Ask" is not all that - after the last "movement" it ranked one of my websites #5 for a very competitive word. Funny thing, this website:
a) has nothing to do with the keyword (simillar industries, but not exactly the same)
b) I have not touched this website in months - no links comming, no updates - and BAM - #5

But as always, Ask has NO TRAFFIC.

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