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Microsoft's New Internet Search Software Is Officially Launched

Live.com is now live

     

GrendelKhan TSU

11:43 am on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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er..was this really not posted? (I must be blind..no wayI'm first) :/

Microsoft's unleashes new Internet search software [news.yahoo.com]

Microsoft officially started its new Internet search engine crafted to compete with offerings from rival online powerhouses Google and Yahoo.

Microsoft announced that its "Live Search" online portal was opened in 47 markets worldwide to complement MSN and Windows Live Internet-scouring services that attract an estimated 465 million visitors monthly....

Frederic1

5:45 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think Windows Live Search doesn't pass the referrer in order to hide the traffic it brings to websites. Maybe Microsoft doesn't want to read here and there that Windows Live Search is still far behind Yahoo and Google in terms of traffic. So the best way to avoid that is to hide the HTTP_REFERER variable.

msndude

6:26 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is NOT by design. We're looking into it. Thanks for telling us.

dclick

6:42 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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im also having problems with No Referrer.. checked raw server logs and nothing is passed at this point.

Cmon guys.. help! :)

newseo

6:47 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure about any one else but I see alot of my links that were there before are not there now, Does anyone think that it is an algo change or it is just adjusting it self.

oddsod

7:06 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Unlike all the guys on page one of this thread I have completely been unable to get to UK maps.

Did the search in local but get presented with just two boxes for what and where. Type in a search term and location and it gives me a SERPs with Web Images News <Local> More. None of those lead to anywhere with a "businesses", "people" or "map" ....

And now it's showing "This site is temporarily unavailable, please check back soon" [intl.local.live.com] Arrgh!

newseo

7:19 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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where does MSN get there results for the maps local search from?

truezeta

8:09 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is NOT by design. We're looking into it. Thanks for telling us.

Thanks, I was getting sad. MSN sends me steady traffic so I would expect LIVE to do the same. I was wondering why I didn't see either in my logs today.

steveb

8:55 pm on Sep 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"This is NOT by design. We're looking into it. Thanks for telling us."

Great news.

NemoNemo

10:44 pm on Sep 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"NOT by design"

I was starting to think MS would be charging webmaster to access referal info. Afterall, referal info is very valuable to us, especially when it contains search terms.

At any rate, i'm curious how it works technically. I don't see any onClick attributes in their links. It's something to do with that gping attribute. They use js to redirect your click through their site thus recording people serp clicks. Here is more info:

[webmasterworld.com...]

So not only do they know what you searched for they also know what you clicked on.

thegypsy

1:36 am on Sep 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yeah I was reading that one as well.... it's all a little er...uh... interesting.

msndude has been a little quiet, though unlike me he may have a life... and will be back on Monday.

I am very curious to see how this plays out....

Giacomo

1:23 pm on Sep 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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msndude, glad to know you're looking into the missing referer issue. :)

Does Live Search have a spam report form, and if not, do you plan to add one?

crobb305

6:00 pm on Sep 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I do not like the tiny little arrows that appear to the right and left of the page numbers at the bottom of each serps page. The arrow is so small, and I sometimes have a hard time seeing things on the screen. I think the previous and next arrows should be larger, and perhaps a differnet color.

mrcritical

8:33 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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When I was notified of this issue my team investigated and found that it is occuring due to a combination of using window.location and event listeners. When a function fired by an event listener performs the window.location change NO referrer will be sent. If a function fired by an event handler performs the window.location then the referrer WILL be sent.

Use the following HTML along with a HTTP headers monitoring application to replicate the issue.

I hope this helps to resolve the problem. WDPRO, along with others, are really suffering from the loss of referrers in there log reporting.

- Philip

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
<title>WindowsLive NO Referrer</title>
<script type="text/javascript">
function onClick(evt)
{
var img = new Image();
/*
*Using an event listener will result in NOT sending the referrer.
*/
img.addEventListener( 'load',callBack,false );
/*
*Using an event on the element WILL send the referrer.
*/
//img.onload = callBack;
img.src = getImage();
evt.preventDefault();
}

function callBack(evt)
{
window.location.href = "http://www.google.com";
}

function getImage()
{
return "http://www.google.com/intl/en/images/logo.gif";
}

function window_onLoad(evt)
{
var testLink = document.getElementById( "testLink" );
if( testLink!== null )
{
testLink.addEventListener( 'click',onClick,false );
}
}
window.addEventListener( 'load',window_onLoad,false );
</script>
</head>
<body>

<a id="testLink" href="test.htm">Test Link</a>

</body>
</html>

Frederic1

9:49 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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thanks. hope this will help the microsoft engineering team. they can't seem to solve the referrer issue for near a week now.

[edited by: Frederic1 at 9:51 pm (utc) on Sep. 20, 2006]

mrcritical

12:09 am on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't be too hard on them. They no doubt have a large team with a large amount of code to comb through. It is not the easiest thing to find something like this.

I just hope they are willing to take suggestions from outside sources.

- Philip

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