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Microsoft's unleashes new Internet search software [news.yahoo.com]
Microsoft officially started its new Internet search engine crafted to compete with offerings from rival online powerhouses Google and Yahoo.
Microsoft announced that its "Live Search" online portal was opened in 47 markets worldwide to complement MSN and Windows Live Internet-scouring services that attract an estimated 465 million visitors monthly....
I like the look of live.com in so much that its at least less cluttered than the previous offering and sets its stall out as a search engine rather than a page full of news, entertainment gossip and links to advertising in some format - For me live is a big step forward for msn.
I agree with you regarding the extra features of live, not many are going to be bothered with them imo. They will just go straight to a search keyword. It will be interesting to see what the take up of the extra services are as a percentage to those that want pure search- my moneys on the take up being low due to joe public being lazy, but msn obviously think its worth the effort to roll these add ons out. Frankly, i would rather msn invest 100% of their time in improving search quaility - the add on services are currently just a nice outfit on a pig as i see it.
As for msn improving search the jury is out, but i dont think the technology is up to much, msn still cant deep crawl ANY site, it has no link or site history behind it, it cant tell a junk site, a spam site or an authority site from each other. Over all it cant cut it.
I have posted many times here about msns search bot technology and until it improves this area it wont be able to collect the data required to deliver quailty serps.
It cant possibly roll out Any improvement to the serps quality what so ever until it has the data available- without deep crawling data it has nothing behind it. All it can do is re-hash the data it has so far giving weight to keywords in the domain name and having sites missing left right and centre that should be in its index.
I would like msn to offer a quality alternative but its currently floored due to its poor search bot technology.
P.S we have a number of sites that rank well in msn and others that dont but if the ones that feature are surrounded by junk as is currently the case they wont take customers off google.
Agreed. I do hope msndude (who I have developed a huge amount of respect for this last year) comments on this one.
The cost of data it seems has gone up. I do think this is an unfair move for webmasters on msn's part, we have little to work with as it is.
"I can't believe that MSN is not longer passing referrer info!"
So far that is the biggest change, and it sure is an unwelcome one. What can be the point of that, besides the obvious of trying to hide their relative popularity versus their competitors?
A good way for them to minimize the effect of users (SEO's and Spammers) manipulating the results, I think.
You can see where your pages are being displayed on which keywords however you can't get any feedback from them how MANY visitors you get and on what keywords thus minizing our feedback and making our work harder :-)
Especially if you have a lot of keywords. You also need to rely on data from other SE's for keywordoptimizing.
[edited by: NedProf at 1:45 pm (utc) on Sep. 15, 2006]
I'm sure a lot of updates from the packages will be coming. From the Microsoft camp, leaving the msn referrer in instead of live until the switch is made might be helpful.
I sure hope they're not alienating the SEO set, it's not like they are below a 10% share as it is ot anything. Seems like it wouldn't be the wisest move.
I look forward to some form of answer. This would even affect conversion packages that have little to do with SPAMMING the engines. It is for tracking a visitor from a certain referrer for sales purposes (you know, what they say we SHOULD be doing? working on our sites and conversions)