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Microsoft MSN Update 23rd August

weird results on MSN today



10:00 pm on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just checked a few keywords on MSN search a few minutes ago and I see real WILD changes.
It then went back to the regular search results.

I mostly found the short output quite irrelevant and disapointing but maybe others can tell more.

From where I stand I am very uncertain of where they are going with this...maybe was just a glitch.


9:12 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i saw the results yesterday and thought something good was happening as well - but today they seem to be going backwards - maybe the dust is just settling?


9:39 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I started looking a bit closer (big mistake). This morning, I saw something that looked ok. Now, I see something that is just rotten.

In the first two pages we do not need to see:


on and on and on...

Also, and probably more significant, is, assuming these are the results, MSN has absolutely no idea how to judge authority/score at all anymore. Looking at the serps, it's just...strange?

If I had to guess, I would say that instead of looking for signals of quality and relevance, they have turned up the filters. The end result is they remove some sites of lower quality, but seem to somehow miss nearly every decent site.

Ah well, one step forward, 40 steps back :)


9:51 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The results I am seeing are identical to the results I saw last week, prior to the update.


10:02 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We rolled back the recent update, so we're back to the status quo ante. All of your complaints may be accurate :-) but they shouldn't be any worse than they were a few days ago.


10:04 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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will you perform this update again? or not.


12:49 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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xspace: I have four rules (so far) that I use to guide my postings. One of them is "I will not preannounce anything; I'll comment on things that people notice, but if no one notices something, it probably wasn't worth talking about." Accordingly, I won't say if we'll release it again, but if we do, I'm sure it'll get noticed. :-)

For reference, the other three rules are:

I won't talk about the competitors; there are already enough people talking about them.

I won't talk about someone's specific site. People deserve their privacy, and even if they don't mind, it's really boring reading about someone's specific problem when you can't see the URL they're talking about.

I won't reveal trade secrets or anything else that might help people unfairly optimize their sites for MSN Search.

Hope that seems reasonable to you. Thanks for being interested in MSN Search!


1:10 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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msndude, the results don't really appear "rolled back", but i will take your word for it (i actually preferred the newer serps i saw this morning).

Anyway, you are without doubt, by far, the most open and...well...easy going of the seo reps (if any are even left?). I for one appreciate this, particluarly coming from a company of your size. Keep up the good work and dont let the critcism get to you (you should read the google forum, lol)...



5:58 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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my serps are starting to look better after this update.


8:33 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good to see an engine that will quickly roll back something when there is a clear problem.


4:09 pm on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The results I am seeing now on [search.msn.com...] are definitely different from those 2 days ago and are definitely better. I hope these will be the final results after this update.


4:41 pm on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Strange, on the computer next to me msn.com shows totally different results for the same keywords!


8:56 pm on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Lesedar: "Final" is a funny word, though; remember that we're committed to making steady improvements in our engine, so nothing is ever really going to be "final."

Steveb: Thanks. I guess the best spin I can put on it is that if we're not making a few mistakes, we're probably not trying hard enough to improve.

By the way, this was another case where Webmaster World was the first place we saw a problem reported. Our hats are off to you folks and your eagle eyes. :-)


4:49 pm on Aug 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see things in my logs, that show with certainty that there have been changes that are crief over the past few days. I can tell because a site will get like 500 hits in a couple of hours and by the time i look at the logs the page is gone from msn serps. This has happened more than a few times.

You guys playing around with different indexes?


5:44 pm on Aug 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I also see two different indexes on msn .com
Now I see the old SERPs again. I hope the other results that appear from time to time will be the constant ones after this update. (not final but at least till next update :)


7:56 pm on Aug 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just a clarifying question: Are you saying you see different results from day to day, or that you see different results on the same day but on different machines? Or even different results on the same machine on the same day?
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