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2:22 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone else see this?

There's a link in bright red text that says, "Take our survey" and an icon nearby that says "new"

But when I click it, the following message appears:

Thank you for your interest! Unfortunately, this survey is not open at this time.

2:24 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I see it, but haven't clicked it.
2:27 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I looked at the questions and decided the survey was stupid.
3:34 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yes well, with this prompt from the topic I logged into AdSense and saw absolutely nothing. RE the topic

BUT

Then I looked at my results for the "day".

Content so far so low I'd trash it [again] if it were a serious trend.

Adsense for Search?

eCPM?

AU$147.31

Gimmee a break, search is now worth 25 X content?

Something is "seriously" broken here.

Hey! Maybe that's what the survey [which I didn't see] is all about.

[Question]: Are your stats also so stupidly out of whack?

Anyone here would die for an eCPM of AU$147.31

[edit] for clarity - I hope

[further edit] Lest anyone misunderstand, the day was above average. Search comprised an unprecedented 80+% of daily revenue.

Something is broken.

3:41 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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OK, I clicked through for the survey. The first questions were pretty simple, what do like about AdSense, what don't you like, etc.

When I got to the questions about what % of my sites income comes from AdSense etc, I ended the exercise. G has enough info about my site as it is.

5:31 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I took the full survey. I dont see any harm in whatsoever questions they asked. Probably they know which ad networks you are using and how much space on your pages because your pages are already indexed by google bot and adsense bot. Also the percentage of Adsense to other ad networks on your page. They may not know the exact revenue share of adsense but that could be guessed with amount of space you are giving to Adsense in comparison with other networks.

Probably they just want first hand information as to how many publishers are turning to other options from adsense. :)

5:41 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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So are you saying if I filled out the survey my eCPM for AU search would go to $147.31?

Really?

6:53 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Khensu: ha ha i dont know about how much or whether it would affect the eCPM or earnings in any way. I really dont think so because for most of the publishers the overall earning are already at bottom. (Atleast thats what many are saying here in ww)

I just wanted to say that I feel it will (filling of survey) least affect your adsense account / adsense earnings in any way. Google is just trying this PR exercise to get the first hand information from Publishers and may be confirm their own findings on this.

Now that I have filled up the survey I will keep posting whether it makes any effect on my adsense earnings.(Positive or negative)

10:38 am on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I received an email a week or so ago to fill it in.
Today, only one account shows the "take the survey" link when logged in.
1:25 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Have not yet seen the survey link...
3:40 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Interesting that so many people clamor for changes in AdSense and complain about many aspects of the program, yet so many people don't want to take the effort to respond when Google asks for direct feedback.

I'm not saying that anything will actually come from it (although I certainly hope some changes will). But if Google gives you a link to provide direct feedback about the program and you choose not to make use of it, then I think that should preclude you from any future public criticism of the program.

3:50 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I responded.

At length.

4:39 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Google gives you a link to provide direct feedback about the program and you choose not to make use of it, then I think that should preclude you from any future public criticism of the program.

Asking what revenue share I make from their competitors is something completely different than asking for feedback for their program in my book. Yes, I bailed out at the same point ken_b did.

4:58 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I agree that there should have been a "decline to state" option for some questions. But there's no reason why you have to tell the truth.

As far as the usefulness of that question, if Google finds that their market share is decreasing to their competitors, one would hope that they would be more willing to listen to what the survey takers are saying to improve the program and regain market share.

5:21 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I am with LifeinAsia with this. If you are complaining on one side and not giving your opinion on other side then you loose the right to complain. Its like complaining about your goverment and not voting in elections.
Not that everything changes overnight but atleast somewhere you can initiate the change by giving your opinion. Take for example of complaints for more channels and google listened (may be after so many months). Same case with font sizes. So I believe that you should give your opinion what ever it may be.
Also surprise surprise after filling up survey once, the link still shows in the account. Google want many opinions from us? ;)
5:22 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I looked at the questions and decided the survey was stupid.

Interesting that so many people clamor for changes in AdSense and complain about many aspects of the program, yet so many people don't want to take the effort to respond when Google asks for direct feedback.
6:21 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I looked at the questions and decided the survey was stupid.

Result: Google looks at the lack of survey takers and concludes that everything is great with the program and no changes are needed.
7:57 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm still getting a message saying that the survey is closed. But anyway, I'm not sure that I would want to reveal so much in a random survey. If they were specifically interested in my site then I would gladly open my books for them.
7:58 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)



I'd be happy to take the survey if I thought what I had to contribute really mattered. It doesn't. Not with adsense it doesn't.

Adsense will add features or make other changes to the program when the adsense team has determined, by whatever means they use to determine, that it will be beneficial to the program. We asked for some things for years, literally years, and finally got them. Was it because we asked for them? No. It was because adsense had finally determined that it would benefit the adsense program. Not adsense publishers in particular, but the adsense program.

It is a complete insult to my intelligence to hear them say, "Hey, we've listened to your feedback and have now increased the number of channels you can use." Well, whoop-ti-do. Where were you 4 years ago or whenever it was that we first started beeping about it?

Font controls. This is seemingly in direct opposition to their earlier stated mandate of not calling attention to the ads. The font control thing is a joke anyway but did we get it because we asked for it? You think? Well, believe what you want.

I'd take the survey just to vent a little bit but I haven't gotten the link and I'm pretty sure I won't. I'm on record as not being too happy with this program.

end rant...

8:04 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I get the "closed" page. Makes me feel like my opinion is worthless. :(
9:36 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Interesting that so many people clamor for changes in AdSense and complain about many aspects of the program, yet so many people don't want to take the effort to respond when Google asks for direct feedback.

Good point.

I'll forward along your feedback on the survey to the team running it. Feedback on a request for feedback. Love it.

ASA

9:51 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I also get a "Thank you for your interest! Unfortunately, this survey is not open at this time." when I click on the link. I'd be happy to take the survey, but indeed, if some questions are too personal, I hope we can skip them.
10:07 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Interesting that so many people clamor for changes in AdSense and complain about many aspects of the program, yet so many people don't want to take the effort to respond when Google asks for direct feedback.

Good point.

Is it ?
From what I see in this thread, it's not so much that people don't want to fill it in, but because of some questions in the survey are preventing them from doing so.

May be is has to do with that little meaningful word called privacy.

Take out such questions and more will fill it in.

10:18 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I went through the survey again, and I honestly can't see any privacy issues.

If answering "What percent of the revenue from your website(s) comes from Google AdSense?" with 5 selected drop-down options is preventing you from completing the survey, then you might as well pull your tin-foil hat down to your chin and stick your entire head in the sand.

"Privacy issues" has become the new "politically correct."

10:20 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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FYI lifeinAsia, I filled it in - over a week ago. Same questions asked.

Other people have issues with giving out too much info. I don't blame them.

10:35 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I wonder how many of the people who won't fill it out because of "privacy issues" are also the ones clamoring for more transparency on Google's part? It's a nice double standard to demand that Google tell you the exact revenue share you receive from them, yet balk at telling Google what their revenue share is of yours. ("You" being people in general, not Lame_Wolf specifically.)
10:46 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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LifeinAsia, obviously I haven't seen it, but my concern would be that the info might be accessible by too many people at Google. Sure I trust Google as a corporation but some of the people who work there now might become ex-employees in the future and might remember some onfo they learned from the survey. I've seen too many situations where some seemingly innocuous piece of info gets tied to another seemingly innocuous piece of info, and paired together they can do damage.
11:14 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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LifeinAsia

...clamoring for more transparency...

That's confusing the issue.

The transparency you mention publishers wanting is between those publishers who use AdSense and Google.

In the case of this survey, Google is asking for info about a publishers relationship with OTHER ad networks, etc.

I'm glad to answer questions from Google about my AdSense account and AdSense in general.

I'm NOT interested in giving Google info about my relationship with OTHER ad networks etc, or about my earnings from those relationships.

11:39 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Then don't. For the question about the other networks, I remember there was a fill-in text field you could use. Enter "decline to state."

As for the rest of the comments, some people here don't see anything but Big Brother on one side, while others see a bunch of tin foil hats and conspiracy theories on the other.

For me, I have better things to do than worry about the possibility that some disgruntled employee may leave in the future and somehow remember that my publisher ID matched up with option 2 (or whatever it was) representing Google's revenue share compared to other partners. And that somehow that young man with the photographic memory will decide to somehow use that information (which may or may not have been a true answer to begin with) about revenue share at a certain point in time to create Skynet or somehow otherwise wreck havoc and destruction.

11:53 pm on Jul 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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So tell Google they're the smallest part of your revenue.
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