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1:12 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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today morning while i try to login into the account a new wizard opened and asked me to update the login information. they are providing new google account through which you can login adsenes, orkut, gmail etc.,

as of now i skip the wizard!

anyone seeing this wizard? what's your comments, whether it will be neccessary to change our login or we can continue with our old one?

2:52 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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so, i am the only one person who is seeing this?
3:01 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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nop, me too tk
3:11 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I see it, I hate it, and I always skip it. I'll merge my accounts when I'm forced to.

[edited by: jomaxx at 3:13 am (utc) on Feb. 7, 2008]

3:12 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I merged my accounts a looooooong time ago. What does it matter, Google knows more about me and my online actions than the government.
3:16 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's not about that. Google can clearly see that both accounts relate to the same website. It's just a pain in the butt involving multiple steps and password retrieval and who-knows-what-else.
3:56 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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From the AdSense blog [adsense.blogspot.com]:

We understand that this is inconvenient, and we apologize for the confusing situation. We’re working on migrating all AdSense accounts over to Google Accounts, and in the meantime, we appreciate your patience.

And this is how I feel everytime I log in:

If you understood how inconvenient it was you wouldn't put me through it. Don't for a moment believe you can assuage me with corporate style platitudes. Perhaps I expect more from Google. Just let me use what I want to use.

[edited by: martinibuster at 8:16 am (utc) on Feb. 7, 2008]

4:26 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've been skipping the wizard for months now.

FarmBoy

4:32 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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The Adsense login involves finances, income and sensitive personal data. Google accounts (groups, forums, etc.) do not.

I think it's sheer folly to mix the two.

4:33 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Just do it.

--Nike.

I did. It took 30 seconds.

Done!

p/g

P.S. I think it might be time to change the password to twice as many characters!

5:39 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I like this... not having to login in to Adsense every time... already logged in to iGoogle.

Just hit the Adsense bookmark... bam! Refreshed Adsense data/total...

So Google just cut out two steps.

Thank you, Google.

p/g

6:07 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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>>... already logged in to iGoogle

That's the problem. For some people it represents a security issue, even with home computers. I don't like it any more than I'd like using my Yahoo ID to log into my bank's website. Anything regarding finances, or that has personal financial information, should be separate and doubly secure - not mixed in with "personal" logins.

6:32 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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While I did this and it is convenient, I fully agree with Marcia. I now regret that I didn't skip it.
6:53 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Marcia, that's the best reason I've seen anywhere. Thanks.
8:44 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Totally agree with Marcia. Though, I confess, I "caved in" to the constant annoyance a very long time ago.

It shouldn't be technically difficult for Google to know in-house that a given Adsense account and a given Google account belong to the same individual and for those two accounts to actually be one account behind the scenes, while at the same time allowing us, the users, to have a separate username and login on the client side, to give us an extra level of protection.

Please think this through, Google. Even if you want us to have the same login for Gmail, Orkut, iGoogle etc., allow us to have separate, secure logins for commercially sensitive data such as Adsense and Analytics.

9:48 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Back when this happened to me a couple of years ago, there was no (that I could see) way to skip the issue.

This caused soooo many headaches and password-not-workings and other problems... AND it didn't consolidate all of my Google accounts anyway! I still have separate accounts for some Google enterprises, as the last I checked (granted it was a long time ago) they said they could not be merged.

This thread just raised all of those bad memories. It was a major hassle that can't be explained in the typed word. You need to see the anguish on my face as I recount the tale. ;)

11:55 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Google really should not even think about forcing us into something that keeps you logged in on adsense.

I'm happy to say I don't get an offer to merge the two accounts, moreover the gmail account I have is of personal nature, while adsense is for sure business.

12:31 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else still not seeing this?
2:00 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I merged last year sometime. I must say it is nice to have access to all my Google tools from one login screen, but I do agree it is a bit of a security risk...

You really need to be diligent about your password management and keep it secure, and change it often... In my opinion.

Else, you are opening the doors to EVERYTHING... Adsense, Adwords, Email, Google Docs, Analytics, you name it... it is all available.

2:51 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Just do it.

--Nike.

I did. It took 30 seconds.

I wish it were so easy. I have multiple Adsense accounts - mine, my partners and LTD companies. I have an Adwords account that has nothing to do with any of the Adsense stuff. And a gmail account I use only for private mail.

Thanks, Google, nice move! :( I need half a dozen PCs now if I want to keep them all separate.

3:38 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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As for the security issue - block cookies for Google, as I do.

Then you will not be automatically logged-in.

(Actually, I block cookies by default. I only enable them for sites that require them.)

Yes, it's a pain and it's stupid. Adwords users had to bite the bullet, what, a year ago?

If you are an Adwords developer or have an MCC account, then you need to have multiple Google accounts anyway, which they do link-together behind the scenes, so it's not as if they don't know how to do it.

This causes more problems than it solves. Since one still winds-up with multiple Google accounts for different "roles" it can cause confusion, say, when posting to Google Groups. I always have to check which Google account I'm logged-in to before posting, and log out and back in if not the right one.

If you see an interesting author on Groups, you will miss many of their posts if you search by author. Because some of the most interesting authors tend to have multiple accounts, and are as forgetful as I am...

(To clarify, I block cookies across the board, but do enable them for Adwords and Groups. I don't want to be "looged in" when doing searches.)

It's ridiculous having to maintain all these email accounts, as well.

Google just doesn't "get it". The rest of the world is (slowly) going the other way. A while back, eBay forced all their users who were using email addresses as login IDs to change them to something other than an email address - because of the security risk.

My stock broker goes further - I have to use a SecureID token (a little device that produces a response you have to type-in in response to a challenge.) That absolutely should be an option for Adwords users, and probably Adsense as well. Many of these accounts involve some big figures.

[edited by: jtara at 3:51 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2008]

3:41 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I tried to switch to using my Google login, but the "wizard" keeps saying "A user with the email you specified already exists
Please select a different Google Account login to access this account." Well, duh. Of course, the user exists ....

-- Roger

4:19 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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This whole mess is the result of merging many acquisitions and the lack of foresight back in the days when all of google's services were independents (you remember that time, long ago, when google did not want to become amonolith)

anyways, I think its better when it's centralized EXCEPT for adsense, you should never be logged on to that automatically and for long.

5:01 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've had this problem since December 9 2007, reported it to Google (to no avail) At first, I thought it was a phisher! #*$!O?
5:57 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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> merged

Ya, I did that, and ended up losing a whole mess of accounts on Google. I can't get back into alot of services I still have an act at. Now I have two accounts with the same name and email address...ugh.

6:49 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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when i try to merge mine it says
"There is already an account with that username"

Oh really, that wouldn't be the Google account I'm trying to merge it with now, would it?

7:19 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I have found a great way around this. I use google apps on my own domain for personal use (emails and docs) and then use adwords, adsense and analytics with my "master" google login.

It has worked out well for me to keep my biz and private separated. You do have to give up iGoogle for a lesser version on your domain google apps.

8:11 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I recently had my identity stolen.

I'm learning to never go the convienence route when things like this come up. Think through all the information that you might have forgotten that is attached to accounts like these.

And then refuse to participate. Whatever the hassle, its worth it in the long run to have one less place to worry about.

8:16 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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--I don't like it any more than I'd like using my Yahoo ID to log into my bank's website.--

Would you feel uncomfortable using your Yahoo ID if Yahoo was your bank as well?

8:50 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Would you feel uncomfortable using your Yahoo ID if Yahoo was your bank as well?

Yes.

And it would probably be illegal for them to do so.

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