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The whole "build a website that doesn't rely on Google" thing is interesting.
I've noticed many people these days don't even bother typing the domain name into the URL section of the browser anymore. What they do is they actually go to Google and search for the website e.g. searching for "webmaster world" and then clicking on the first result.
If have a website and you're not in Google, you're screwed. Yelp certainly know this.
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we are all dependent on one source of traffic.
You should have loyal visitors like webmasterworld.com. I don't think webmasterworld.com is dependent on Google. WW stays even though Google sends zero traffic.
Relying solely on Google is just lazy, shortsighted and a suicidal strategy for the long term survival of a site.
Something to think about when anyone talks about "whitelisting" robots. <fe>All the important search engines are already established, so there's no point in wasting your bandwidth on the upstarts, outsiders and wannabes.</fe>
This just shows me how messed up everyones thinking is. It is not "free traffic" and "free money". Google would be nothing, completely NOTHING without our content they use for "free"
Also, I was not talking about how Google benefits from our content, that is part of their business model, not your business model.
My recommendation is to wait until they are a viable player, at least in Beta, before letting them put a drain on your resources. For example, the hundreds of toy nutch crawlers (wannabes) people have running amok, not worth the bandwidth unless one of them actually goes public as a SE. Likewise, the flood of toy crawwler crap from AWS (Amazon Web Services) isn't worth allowing access at this time. However, new promising spiders like Yandex and even Blekko have been allowed on my whitelist.
1. how do think those visitors found the site in the first place?
Are you kidding? g### adores WebmasterWorld. Put up a post, and it will be indexed before the page has time to refresh. That's how I found this place.
[edited by: directwheels at 4:59 pm (utc) on Oct 22, 2011]
our combined strength should be put to use IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER ENGINE to split the traffic
[edited by: Leosghost at 7:24 pm (utc) on Oct 22, 2011]
Those who do well in google know that they will not last.
I am number 1 in google aswell - but this ill feeling I have (the same as the OP wrote about) makes me want to change things.
I am number 1 in Binghoo aswell - so the algos there are not really worrying.
I want to split the traffic.
We do and our combined strength should be put to use IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER ENGINE to split the traffic.
our combined strength
I still do offline business.
we don't really have a way to use that power to bring Google to the bargaining table. At this point, only the govt does.
[edited by: ak_web at 1:44 am (utc) on Oct 23, 2011]