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9:12 am on Jun 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi, a lot of my sites jumped back up on Tuesday, sites that were buried down a dozen or so pages appeared back on the first page, my other sites that were ranking on page 1 or 2 have not moved up any further, just the low ranking sites have moved up.

The same thing also happened to another webmaster I talk to, these are all exact match domains, that is the only thing our two sets of sites have in common, otherwise they are all different hosting and different backlinks ect.

Is this happening accross the board to other UK sites?
3:53 pm on Jun 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

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It sounds like the release date for some algorithmic penalty - is that a possibility?
4:15 pm on Jun 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps, if it was just my own sites I would agree, but his sites are totally different to mine in every respect apart from keyworded domain names.

No changes were made to any sites, it is my understanding that a penalty lift would only be done after respidering detected the removal of the reason for the penalty, of course the backlinks could have changed outside of our control but again it is unlikely that the backlink profiles could have altered across so many sites at the same time.
4:46 pm on Jun 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Even after the causes of penalties are cleaned up, it is common for a certain "penalty period" to be in effect, and for lots of sites to be released from the penalty box at one particular time.

However, the fact that this change seems to affect exact match domains is interesting. How long were these sites ranking poorly?
2:42 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I have the same experience as the OP, 2 or 3 of my blog sites that were kicked in to touch have come back to their original (or in one case better) positions than before the 'panda penalty'. I've done nothing to the sites at all but 2 of them did have a forum signature which I've removed. Other than that no changes were made.

Site came back Tuesday, disappeared for a few hours Wednesday but then they've returned to good positions again. Oh, these are UK sites too - and I've heard lots of people talking about changes on Tuesday this week.
6:05 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi, obviously something happened on Tuesday in the UK.

Was this a keyworded domain Breham?

Otherwise the reason for change is lost on me, perhaps a re-ranking or a general penalty lift, seems too wide to me to be a penalty lifting though.
6:57 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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When were the sites originally "penalized" or "buried down" in the SERPs?

Were they hit at the same time? Were they interlinked? How aggressive was your lining campaign?
7:10 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Of the 25 of my sites, these are not interlinked at all, they went down at various times from Jan-Mar this year.

My colleagues sites are of course totally different to mine, they went down at various times throughout last year and this year.

I have also seen a competitor who I keep an eye on reappear on Tuesday 7th June, and Breham above also reappeared on the Tuesday.
8:01 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)



I have a site that used to occupy the #3 position on google.co.uk for its targetted keyword, but it lost that spot in November due to what I assume was a duplicate content penalty. It came back at about 23.00 Monday night. Prior to that various pages would be seen floating around pages 6 - 10.
8:45 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Yep, I can confirm a few sites came back better than ever before midnight Monday night - in the UK.
9:10 pm on Jun 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

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one of my sites was buried in the beginning of February and came back on the 7th also,
it was very gently pushed at the time...
(some poster said, after launch he forbid g-bot to crawl, because he was afraid to get links... go figure...)
4:45 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Huh...

So any bets on whether it is an Algo tweak for the UK or just a lot of penalties lifted en masse?
7:46 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I suspect an algo tweak- as on Monday I have a UK site where the traffic suddenly plummeted i.e. 89% down since Monday.
This particular site has constant predictable traffic - the only thing I can figure is that it has a hard link (as it always has had) to a well know accommodation supplier but for 8 years that's never been an issue and the whole site is original content.
8:01 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Two of my UK sites came back earlier this week after about six weeks at the very bottom of the listings for their target key phrases. This morning they are gone again.
8:24 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi, yes i can confirm that mine are gone out again.
9:52 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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also confirming out again yes
10:09 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Must have been some sort of short term rankings bump, dont know why, my sites affected were all young - under 1 year old, how old were yours?
10:38 am on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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mine were quite new, about 3 months old.
1:20 pm on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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indeed been thinking we could compare our sites but driller41's question is on the spot, my site 11 months young
4:48 pm on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Are all these sites affiliate sites?
5:23 pm on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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one wasn't but the rest are, using a click though to go to the sales page but with unique content throughout each site.
7:37 pm on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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mine is an affiliate site yes
7:46 pm on Jun 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I saw exactly the same with a 4 month old site. A big % inrease from Tuesday and gone again today.
6:10 am on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Mine are back up this morning! Anyone else seeing this?
9:27 am on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

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i got some of my clients websites on page 1 with ranking better than panda update
12:30 pm on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi, yes, I confirm that my sites are back in today.
1:26 pm on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

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not back here (yet) non UK, but in Europe
3:02 pm on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi MirrorNL, see what happens tonight - and report back, you may get a change, though it seems to be more UK based - at least all my observations are confined to the UK anyway.
3:22 pm on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)



My widget sector SERPs are total and utter garbage and seem to be getting worse by the day. One site I have at #1 in .com/ie/au/ca/in is #17 in co.uk!

It's almost completely fubard for my sector. For some searches users are having to go down 2 or 3 pages before even seeing any relevant UK results because of so many old Chinese directory sites dominating the SERPs.
8:15 pm on Jun 14, 2011 (gmt 0)



I lost quite some positions on 5 domains. Exact match plus one word domains .co.uk

One dropped to 18 - is now back at 5. A day before that dropped - two competitor sites (same guy) bumped me from 3 to 5. Then the drop to 18.

So not back to 3 yet.

My competitor has spots 1 2 and 3 with different domains.

This last 7 days has definately seen some shunting on the .co.uk google

I have one site which dropped to 21 from 10 about a week ago. It came back to 20 3 days ago - still a long way from its 10 spot.

So in summary - my sites - NONE hit by panda - have NOW been hit.

Very strange.
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