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Aug 17 - and now Sept 15 changes. What happened?

   
3:29 pm on Sep 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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After August 17 i notoced that my site receive huge amount of traffic from Google. But yesterday all traffic has gone as it was before August 17. Any thoughts about this?

What changed in Google algoritm?

10:56 pm on Sep 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ahh - now that I see some more refreshing it looks like Expired domains are working again as well - amazing if someone really forgot to put that filter back in
11:30 pm on Sep 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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From the volume of posts here it does not appear that the changes are as far reaching as some previous updates.

Not really, I just can't be a..ed really to follow all the G changes anymore.

If there is nothing you can do about Google results, it's better now to concentrate on tier 2 traffic generators and let Google update itsself out of the market.

12:17 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google = Search and that is really bad! I even heard Bill Gates using "googling" in an interview on TV :(
It is also too bad that people don't really get mad when they see all the bad results google show these days. I saw that people have went to the trouble to go to page 85 to find my site! So what was on the other 84 pages? Spam?
Like someone said, all we now need to do is to put up spam sites, with a lot of stolen content, no backlinks to anybody and link the crap out of it to our spam sites with subdomains. That'll do it! Google will gladly index them and if we do it "right" we'll take the first spot :(
12:41 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few weeks ago I posted my "plan B" in the thread entitled 'Is It Realistic To Base A Business Around Free SERPs?' ( [webmasterworld.com...] ). I'm now deciding at what point it will be necessary to implement plan B. I'm fortunate since about half of my business is mostly Google independent. I think it's important to not play the role as victim, and though I may have to cut back hours for a few employees, my business will survive.

I've never been in this position before so I don't know that I have the best advice. I'm certain that my site doesn't have duplicate content / 302 / 404 issues, I solved those issues years ago and have only ever seen one supplemental listing from any of my sites. My best advice is to hang out in the places frequented by Google employees and try to make contact, places like Matt Cutts blog, Google's Webmaster Help forum, and here at WW. Even go to PubCon and SES if it is in any way possible. If you can influence someone to give your site a manual review maybe you can get some good information or possibly expedite the process a bit.

1:38 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



No changes here, either in traffic or in the top rankings of the keywords that I watch. (At least, not so far.)
1:47 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites' index page is either around #35 or #2 or #3 for a major keyword phrase (32 million results), it jumps back and forth. We rank at or near the top for slightly less important kw phrases no matter what happens to the index. What's odd about the jumping around is that most of the other results in that SERP set are stable but mine is in and out. I try to not focus on where we are in the results but steadily and slowly acquire more inbound links, and steadily add more pages, too. Unless major crap happens with G's algo, the trend will be higher and higher.
2:22 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Still at least two main indexes... the apparently being replaced that had tons of freehost spam, and the newer on with much less freehost spam but different data-refresh/lost/screwed-up sites.
3:12 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Literally today (Sunday) was the best Sunday (heck best traffic day all round) since around May. I wonder how much of this is seasonal fluctuation and if maybe I'm not doing better in some phrases than I was before July 27th.

Given how volatile this past few months have been I'm not ready to pop any Champaign corks to celebrate quite yet. I am, however, hopeful that this is a sign of things to come for my website in regards to Googles SERPs

--edit reason: typos/missing words--

[edited by: KenB at 3:36 am (utc) on Sep. 18, 2006]

4:50 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My largest site was hit pretty hard initially by the Sept update and went about 99% supplemental. It appears to be having a bit of a traffic recovery today but not much.

I must admit that it's a mystery to me, since this site is user generated unique content.

Over the past year I've pretty much written Google off as a reliable source of traffic.

There are pleanty of other ways to get traffic out there. I get 60%+ of the traffic on the effected site from repeat visitors that have bookmarked it. About 30% comes from the "other" search engines and PPC ads.

Freq---

5:16 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Our content rich site was cut off from Google traffic on June 27, came back on July 28 and went down to zero on August 17. No improvements on Sep 15 are now forcing us to simply give up on aiming to be a quality publisher and our sites will no longer receive daily updates and new content.

For many keywords we provide the by far largest picture and video selections that Googler users do not find anymore whilst outdated and irrelevant pages receive all the traffic.

From the search term analysis we realize, that many users are searching for our different content channels and even our domain at Google and we truly feel sorry to disappoint our visitors.

Now Google owns the traffic monopoly on which publishers are depending and good content is obviouly no longer a guarantee for receiving visitors.

We hope, that one day someone will crush that Google monopoly to make the Internet as good as it was until their engeneers had started to demolish publishers with their algo updates.

6:01 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



No changes here, either in traffic or in the top rankings of the keywords that I watch.

Truly amazing!

6:48 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Looks like I spoke too soon, again... the putrid results with all the freehost spam, even worse than before, seems to now be the dominant result batch. Pathetic.
7:43 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"I would just disallow their spiders from my site. Then they can deal with all spam sites and not have any real sites in their index."

Nice idea! Since a while Google does not seem to care for tight search results and quality publishers who get cut off from traffic. Just hope, that someone steps up and will make a better thing than allmighty Google.

10:04 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"The more a follow threads on this issue the more I tend to think it is some kind of massive rolling date update that results in sites totally disappearing from SERPs for a couple of months while some kind of data related to the site is purged and refreshed."

I must admit I tend to agree with this statement. Only what algorithm takes a couple of months to complete, except possibley the good ole google hand check.

FWIW I had orginally popped by to comment on thread that was reporting google showing the linux 1969 cache date for suplementals. (the thread seems to have disappeared!)

10:45 am on Sep 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On

216.239.53.*
216.239.59.*
66.102.7.*
66.102.9.*
66.102.11.*
72.14.207.*
72.14.203.*

are the SERPS, which where active until last week.

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