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Possible Shift in Google-Webmasters Communication Policy!

Have Googlers stopped announcing updates and posting weather reports?

     
7:00 am on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks,

I have noticed in recent months a remarkable shift in the way Google employees communicate with the webmasters communities.

For one reason or the other the Googlers have stopped posting weather reports about the new infrastructure. No more posts explaining critical changes on the serps. No more talking about specific DCs as they use to do. No more chat when it comes to Google serps and possible changes which are so clear and obvious to even novice webmasters. The only thing we have been hearing is the famous "Data Refresh".

Of course, one of the reasons for the shift in Google's communication policy mightbe the continuous trouble the Googles are into since the deploy of BigDaddy.. "if you have no good news..keep quite".

If its true that the Googlers have decided not to talk to us anymore about the serps, DCs and possible filters, algo changes and announcing possible updates. Do those same Googlers deserve to be invited anymore to the webmasters conferences and meetings, for example?

What will be the consequences of Google shift in Google-Webmasters communication policy?

Many thanks in advance for your contributions to the thread.

5:52 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good morning Folks
Good morning GoogleGuy

I guess I was on target when I wrote in a previous post (#:3023966) on this thread the following few lines:

"IMO, the golden days of Google-Webmasters communications were the days of our kind member GoogleGuy (GG). He was very helpful, friendly and most important tolerant to critic (and bashing). GG was always there when we needed him. Q&A of GG were very popular indeed. And most of us looked at GG as part of our webmasters community, rather than as only a Google employee."

And this thread is an excellent example of a successful Google-Webmasters communications. Thanks to to you all for great contributions and thanks a bunch to GoogleGuy for taking the time to contribute to the thread.

GoogleGuy asked us Let me turn it around: how could we do better?.

Lets us be creative and come up with few constructive suggestions for improving Google-Webmasters communications.

Here is my contribution:

- More frequent weather reports (interim weather reports are most welcome too).

- Availability of Googlers on webmasters forums to answer questions.

- GoogleGuy/Googlers Q&A sessions

- Place and procedure to report problems. Sitemaps could be a possibility.
Just wish to mention that in the past, GoogleGuy use to give us specific email to use in reporting problems.

and of course I can continue, but prefer to leave for other kind members the opprtunity to contribute with few creative suggestions.

Wish you all a great day.

5:56 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)



This is Matt Cutts posting instead of GG. I take your point and hopped over to confirm an images update in a different thread. I think you're getting up as I'm going to bed, reseller. :)
5:57 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)



Maybe it's time to do a miscellaneous question thread on my site, too?
5:57 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good morning Matt

Very generous of you to take the time to visit us and post feedback. Highly appreciated!

" reseller, I take your point that several folks would like to hear more specifics about datacenters, data refreshes, and weather forecasts. I talk about some of that on my site, but I can certainly keep it in mind and try to discuss stuff like that more often."

Yes, Matt. That is exactly what the majority of us wish to see. You have done a great job on your blog at the beginning of BigDaddy, and we wish to see you continue on that great path. :-)

"I think you're getting up as I'm going to bed, reseller. :) "

I guess you are right again. Wish you good night and God bless.

6:01 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hard to make sense of this stuff Matt. SERPS dancing, interior pages showing instead of the more authoritative pages, and google returning both www and non-www pages.
6:15 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)



We must be in diametrically opposed time zones, reseller. I'm always leaving the room when you're entering it, or vice versa. :)

Kirby, summer is a time when it's easier to deploy new infrastructure, because less people are searching. At the WebmasterWorld conference in Boston I put up a PowerPoint slide to illustrate how tough it would be to be a dedicated data center watcher, because of the different things going on at different places. My point was that I think many people will watch individual data centers less and less over time.

But I sometimes forget how much many people *do* monitor data centers to see what they can figure out.

I'm gonna head to bed--talk to folks later.

[edited by: MattCutts at 6:16 am (utc) on July 28, 2006]

6:43 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Matt, don't be such an old lady, we're in the same time zone and it's not even midnight.

You and I both know REAL programmers never go to bed before 3am...

6:46 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MattCutts

Great to see you on this side of the fence!

A little positive feedback. I have noticed that our site has slowly been making a come back. Earlier this month we actually got to see some visible PR show up in that little green bar. Links started to appear for internal pages as well as showing FROM internal pages. This is a better sign for us - I don't care about rankings I will take what we get naturally - I just want to see us fully indexed. This was our first real hiccup we have ever experienced and it was a doozy.

Just wondering when should we expect another refresh. Also how often are backlinks updated now - are they calculated on a regular basis as Gbot finds them. I know pages seem to add on a continuous basis and if that is true what is the purpose of a data refresh? Is it more of heaftier/complete calculation of factors/data cleanup or what?

Also there has been issues about 301's lately. Especially www and no-www. Are 301's working as they should? On an older established sites one worry is redirecting non-www to www or vice versa may have adverse effects. Do you see any possibility of adverse effects with older sites and the www/non-www redirects? Cearing this up would definately knock out much worry as a possible cause. It seems to come up over and over again.

[edited by: arubicus at 7:02 am (utc) on July 28, 2006]

6:48 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Bill, are you saying you sleep at all? Imagine how much you could get done if you cranked it up a notch.
7:21 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Maybe it's time to do a miscellaneous question thread on my site, too?

No offense Matt, But as someone who detest censorship, I'd prefer you did the Q&A on a site where you do not have full ablility to delete posts.

On your blog, you can do whatever you want. But I've seen far too many non-offensive questions/comments get deleted over there.

Don't feel like answering on a "neutral" board, that's fine too.
But deleting legitimate posts scores low points for me for the "open communication" PR campaign you are currently promoting....

7:38 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On your blog, you can do whatever you want. But I've seen far too many non-offensive questions/comments get deleted over there.

Matt hasn't deleted any of my obnoxious posts to the best of my knowledge so he can't be THAT big of a censor. However, define neutral ground, WebmasterWorld and other forums delete posts too, so it's going to be filtered just about anywhere.

7:49 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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to the best of my knowledge

exactly....to best of your knowledge

define neutral ground

"a site where you do not have full ablility to delete posts."

WebmasterWorld and other forums delete posts too, so it's going to be filtered

Posts on WW don't get deleted simply because they are "obnoxious".
As I said originally, non-offensive posts get deleted or simply never "approved" (whatever you want to call it).

I'm not going to get into a big argument about it. It's simply a request. Matt's a big boy. I'm sure he can speak for himself.

8:05 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Matt Cutts and Googleguy in the same thread....?

It's like seeing Clark Kent and Superman in the same bar.....

8:14 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Except Clark just went off to get drinks when Superman appeared.
When Clark comes back with the drinks, Superman will have left to use the restroom.
It's funny like that. ;)
9:43 am on Jul 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Matt Cutts and Googleguy in the same thread....?
It's like seeing Clark Kent and Superman in the same bar.....

You stole my line!

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