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Seems my positions are fluctuating all over the place at the moment.
And, why can't we name Yahoo updates? Yahoo seems to be updating every couple of weeks now and it's spiders won't leave my sites! :>~
joined:June 2, 2003
That's exactly what I see in my niche.
Has anyone else previously with just the index page in the results now got more pages listed. I'd be interested to know.
A blind chimpanzee seems like it could pick better results than Google these days, but they are so far ahead of Yahoo and MSN now that that the second two really shouldn't even be in the conversation.
I can't find a single instance of a "signal of quality" that yahoo appears to be using.
And why on earth can't they fully index any domain? A stake should have been put through the heart of Slurp two years ago, but it has to be clear to everyone there now that they have a bot that simply can't do the job of indexing the Internet.
(As usual, the results are decent in any area people don't care to spam, but in areas where people try to manupulate rankings with the most simplistic techniques and no quality content, they can easily.)
And my goodness the redirects! Some top ten results are nothing but redirects. Sheesh.
Earlier in the day I posted an increase in pages indexed (from around 450 to 600). I just check to see if there are any changes - now I'm down to only 88 pages. Not good for me so far.
I have to admit that after the June update I had been all but removed from Yahoo SERPs - at last count 32 visitors for the month. Can't get much worse than this - or could it? Nah
In my sector (main results I look for are single keyword, 45M results and 2 keywords, 19M results) I have not shifted and moved to #1 from about #8 accordingly. Other sites around me have bumped around but nothing hugely different.
All in all, rather good.... so far.
iblaine - did you fill in the form for a Yahoo review after your apparent banning or did it just come back? I have a couple of sites with 1 indexed page and wondered if I just need to tweak them to get them back in the index...
It's important to articulate why you think a site went up or down.
The update thread can be more useful if we throw in a little analysis with the observations. ;)
For my sites that went up, one common aspect is that they have strong on page work. I also do a fair amount of outbound links to authority type sites, on all of these pages.
My sector has been dominated by site-scrapers for almost an year, and I believe this is what happened - Yahoo kicked most of them dooooown...
Of course there will be a whole bunch of unhappy people - those who lost ranking, but it's like that every time. This has to be the best update Yahoo made in an year or so. From 40,000,000 results the other day, now my keyword is down to almost the half - makes sence to me.
I dont know how good you rank on Google, but in my industry Google is 95% spam in the top 20 results...So is MSN...I am not complaining, just observing as I rank more than well accross all the SEs.
I am giving the KUDOS to Yahoo for gettng rid of the site-scrapers!
I had very strong upward movement with this update but the update is not over as I understand it so that could change.
Here's what I noticed with my 100 keywords:
- up 1500 positions on 100 key phrases
- 60% of the 100 key phrases rank in the top 10
prior to the update only 30% were ranking in the top 10
Things are still flucuating quickly, but I'd say:
it looks like they have filtered out many scaper sites. (good)
Crappy affiliate sites have begun to dominate (bad)
Made for adsense sites are rampant (kinda bad - great for google!)
High Volume terms (50k+ searches a month) seem to be fine but three + and obscure terms a riddled with spam.
Legit merchant/commerce sites seemed to of been striped UNLESS it is a yahoo store in which case they continue to do well.
File naming conventions (http://keyword.domain.com/keyword/keyword.html) are getting plenty o love from Yahoo.
Dynamic pages with many URL paramaters seem to of fallen out a favour.
Cloaking STILL works! Shocking...
I have heard that 301 hijacks are fixed but not actually seen any evidence one way or the other myself.
Those are my analysis/obsevations.
On a personal note they seem to of kicked my arse to the curb. My sites are mostly big eCommerce sites with (mostly) whitehat SEO and pretty big numbers. Either the search team read what I have been writing about them in my blog or Yahoo is *trying* to move away from commercial and towards informational organic SERPs (pushing commerce into Y!SM - wait isn't that the same tinfiol hat we we wearing during florida?).
The redirect problem is basically epidemic now. Pretty soon there might not even be a "site" among the Yahoo results as they all redirect to some other domain, with an affiliate link attached.
Earlier today Yahoo only showed four pages of a five page site indexed, but now it shows five. Likewise it went from 88 of 92 to now 90 of 92, so perhaps the indexing will be more complete in a day or so.
Anybody have an idea what was changed with this update? Anybody see more emphasis on link analysis or is it strictly on page?It seems to me they have added more weight to on-page factors and maybe adding the age as a factor now, which isn't much of a surprise.
sub-area-domains win hands down.
Dynamic pages are out
Static pages with keyword in the string are in big style
The results are just plain awfull in my sector spam sites with multi sub-domains are taking up blocks of results again.
Looks like a junk yard to me
This site had as many as 700 pages in Yahoo's index at one time - about 3 months ago, during the April update.
The site is completely white hat, around 950 pages of unique content, follows Brett's 26 steps. Outbound to authority site (including about 50 differnt ones to Yahoo, which I should probably remove.)
The site is about 15 months old and used to get over 300 referals a day from Yahoo. Now it doesn't even rank for it's own name - not since the June update. Something that Yahoo was able to do for 14 of 15 months the site has existed.