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What Do We Know About Optimizing For Yahoo

Personally, I am getting killed in Yahoo but great in Google

   
7:10 pm on Mar 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm trying to build some decent Yahoo rankings and I am having a hard time finding useful information on this board so far. I was wondering if we could use this thread to summarize what we know so far about optimizing for Yahoo.

I will start by saying I notice that keyword in URL seems to be big in the SERPs for Yahoo. For my sites that do well in Yahoo, Anchor Text also seems to be a very strong factor, more so than on page factors.

What else do we know about Yahoo optimization?

Do we know ideal keyword density levels, etc?

11:48 pm on Mar 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In short, if you are doing well in Google, work on your "onpage" factors and you will do well in Yahoo!
1:07 am on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo is the same as Google but without the filters or whatever you want to call the for over optimizing.
1:34 am on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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High on-page optimization, heavy reliance on anchor text, aged domains are good. There are a few threads on the subject, so I'd encourage to search the Yahoo forum.
9:02 pm on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Their algo is most likely based on an old Google algo before Yahoo anounced their own SE. I would guess it's based on a Google algo about 9-10 months old.

It only stands to reason that Yahoo's contact called for the base algo and any changes to be disclosed, before they signed the "original deal" with a "Start Up Google."

10:04 pm on Mar 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From what I have seen, high KWD will get you much farther with Yahoo than it will Google. With Google, even with very low (or even non-existant) KWD you can still rank high. First thing I'd suggest you look at with pages ranking poorly in Yahoo is if the KWD is low, and if so change that.
11:32 am on Mar 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Noted that freshnes has nothing to do with ranking in Yahoo - was mightily surprised to find old sites picked up by Slurp and kicking butt, wheras google had given up on them ages ago
10:59 am on Mar 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Best is to have a customised and focused HTML title with search terms and make sure that the page content is key word rich.
3:49 pm on Mar 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Help!

I have great position rank with Google for my main key word phrases (I am in the number one position for Las Vegas Real Estate which is a temendeously competitive key word!) but since Yahoo dropped Google I do not even exist on Yahoo! I can not find my site anywhere. Most of my main competitors are listed on Yahoo just like always. Can anyone tell me why?

Diann

4:43 pm on Mar 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<<Can anyone tell me why? >>

Do a lot of reciprocal linking?

3:56 am on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Do a lot of reciprocal linking?"

I see several sites in my industry that are doing well in the Yahoo serps that are reciprocal linking. So I am not sure if this is it or not.

4:26 am on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do a ton of reciprocal linking so that cannot be the reason. :( This really has me puzzled!
1:09 pm on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<<that cannot be the reason>>

You sure? That is the #1 reason the wonderful editors site when they respond to "am I banned" emails from what I hear. Also, on numerous occasions, the folks from INK have said that the results are better minus recips...

1:20 pm on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do think itīs to early to speak about optimizing..........
The sites I checked are full with spam, hidden text, reciprocal links (tons of them) etc.
Do a search on yahoo.com for ffa........these sites are indexed, should be better penalize these sites than people that do not know these are bad, if they are indexed, should be ok ,no?
or why not search for links for you.....

But supose all that will comes as times goes by

12:02 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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damn, I just realized I forgot to optimize for Google..with Yahoo! launching and all that, I focused more on Yahoo and am #3 for my primary keyword. Just checked Google - #89.

Sid