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Supplemental club: Big Daddy coming - Part 1

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6:43 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Carrying on from here:

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and here

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A lot of members are seeing huge sites going supplemental. One of our main sites lots all rankings and 200,000 + pages disappeared and now we are left with 19k useless results. This could be a goof or it could be a new round of penalties. If you have had your site reduced to the 'sup index lets here about it and compare notes.

7:01 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Crush,

Pardon my ignorance -- how does one check to see if a site has been relegated to the Supp's?

One of our PR6/1000+p sites has been hit. By what, we do not know :-)

7:21 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Bling do a search:

site: mydomain.com

and if you see "supplemental result" next to the snippet then you have joined the sup club.

7:28 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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About 2 hours ago my site went supplemental except for the homepage. I have had a significant number of supplementals in the results but all or most of my real pages ranked and showed up at the top of a site:www.mydomain.com listing. Now the first 1000 are all supplemental on all datacenters I have checked. At first 66.249.93.104 was the same now it shows my usual results.

Another piece of info the cache date on the the rest of the datacenter with the supplemental problem the cache shows jun 05 - aug 05, prior to the problem they showed feb 2006. Big Daddy in now showing Feb 2006 cache no supplementals in the first 1000. The rest of the datacenters are still showing supplementals after the homepage

7:34 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OK, well yep - bad news.

2,960 pages went supplemental. Nice.

Getting crazy cache dates like "as retrieved on Jan 26, 2005 14:24:08 GMT." Yowza

The sky is falling :-P

7:36 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yep, today my 1000+ page website went all supplemental bar the homepage. Cached pages are from last July.

Last May I got hit by Canonical problems. I took all the recommended remedial action and in the past few weeks Google was finally indexing the site normally, though rankings were still shot to s***.

So I have nothing to lose, because I lost it all back in May anyway...

7:43 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here.

Today I lost ranking for all pages beside my home page. when doing "site:" command all are supplemental but the home page. What is going on?

7:43 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sorry double post....
8:00 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yikes!

Here for example; 64.233.161.105 you get minimal page counts, about 25% representation and supplemental hell, what a mess!

But here all is well; 64.233.167.104

Talk about a difference in data centers.

8:14 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is definetely not a penalty, I see 80% of sites affected in my sector. All of them just have their valid homepage any other listed page in site: is supplemental

huge sites having few thousand pages have now dropped to 100s of supplemental pages

definetely some major update with bigdaddy DCs, NO penalty for sure just a complete reshuffle and reindex.

9:10 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I also noticed a large difference in the DC's mentioned above, I did not have any supp's, yet, but I noticed 2 very distinct things, one of which is very disturbing.

1. Many of my indexed pages are now showing as URL only, and I am not sure exactly what this means.

2. On one of the DC's it was showing an indexed page that is forbidden by the robots.txt, namely in the cgi-bin directory. We have had the cgi-bin directory excluded by the robots.txt from day one, so I am perplexed as to why this page is showing when I do a site:mydomain.com search.

There is a 300+ page diff between the 2 DC's one appears correct while the other is missing the 300+ pages.

Guess all one can do is wait until the dust settles and see what happens then.

9:13 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Looks like a penalty to me. One of our sites got a penalty a year ago and the site: command looks exactly like our latest site to take a hit.

Adwords for me. I have 200 mouths to feed.

9:32 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same for me. I have about 200,000 supplement pages now. All with caches between 6 months and 1 year old.

I sure hope this is just a bug or incomplete update. Seems too large scale for it to be a penalty.

10:48 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I wish that Matt or Googleguy would post telling us not to worry, that Big Daddy needs an additional data push /reindex (or whatever) and that we just need to be patient. I suppose with millions of GB of data it's easy for things to get screwed up when your moving over to a new system - it's just upsetting when it's your site that's affected, for no apparent reason.
11:08 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here lost 800 pages of quality content no dup at all.....

However i also suffered a penalty!

Any change of a similarity?

Cheers,

BB

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