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"Celebrating" Allegra Update Anniversary Day
Good morning Folks
Life on Google DCs is much more wonderful than you will ever think :-)
Approaching February 2006, I feel like it just happened yesterday or last week or last month. I'm talking about that Allegra update which changed the map of Google serps once and for all on 2nd February 2005.
I recall loosing 75% of my Google's referrals at that black cold February day. Then the sad stories of other fellow members started to appeare on the threads.
IMO, Allegra was a turning point of the relation between the SEO's specialists and Google. Since then Google carried out an undeclared war against what most SEO's were making living of. Some wise SEO's understood at once the situation and started to adapt and deal with the new environment. Others kept dreaming about the return of the good old Google Dance days.
February is a good time for "savage" Google's updates. Better you keep your eyes opened and watch closely whats taking place on the DCs. And keep your focus on small and big changes on DCs such as
And lets be wise and forget all about the Smoke and Mirrors of a BigDaddy or a BigMammy :-)
I wish you all a great day and a successful week.
[edited by: tedster at 8:52 am (utc) on Jan. 16, 2006]
[edited by: lawman at 11:56 am (utc) on Jan. 16, 2006]
Perhaps, amongst other things, BigDaddy will sport an increased index capacity?
I thought the next logical progression would be to 16B, but perhaps they are jumping to 32B?
Or its just another of those 'Google counts approx X10 when over 1000 actual results' phenomenon's?
Just did a search and apparently they claimed they increased it again last September, but they have not specifically announced the size...
I could understand this thread went nuts when we got new PR, rankings or it stayed on google.com, but that is not the case, I also understand that it is a horror to be in this situation, I got hit with a site nov3 2004 with a site that got 35.000 unique visits a day.
Im also watching this posting and hoping for news, but its always the same posting.
Come on Google we must be getting close to the next stage of Big Daddy of an interal PR update and a good crawl based on the new infastructure?
They cant be totally happy with the identification of the canonicals and 301/302 following I guess.
Our site is about 2000 pages built over the last 5 or so years.
We only saw stuff happening on big daddy after this particular mozilla bot started crawling 126.96.36.199, It heavily crawled old old pages that were long ago 410'd or 404'd. (we did change all our 410's to 404's in november/December - not sure if that made a difference).
This is the mozillabot that yesterday hit pages that have not been indexed on google anywhere for a long time. I will keep watching to see if they get added to any index. It took from Jan 6th crawl to yesterday for updated cache dates (or even a cache at all in some cases) to show up on big daddy for us so it seems to take awhile.
I have noticed that when regular googlebot hits a page that is in all the datacenters it gets an updated cache on bigdaddy as well. It is pages that are only on big daddy that seem to take awhile to get a cache or a new cache date.
I am not sure if this helps you, but I think this mozillabot is different than other ones that have been on our site in the past. I haven't seen much from any other mozillabots lately to do a comparison though.
I have had pages added to the index from Mozilla Googlebot from a different IP addy to the one you have said - so I dont know if there is any significance in which IP address Mozilla Googlebot comes from.
Although the index at [188.8.131.52...] only showed updated cache over the last few days I am pretty sure that this updated cache is being used for the results on [184.108.40.206...] and has been for a while. True that when you query the cache it does not show the updated details - but the serps snippets do indicate the more recent crawl - and it did not take so long for that data to appear on that dc.
joined:Dec 29, 2003
I predict a major change within two weeks. Traditionally google has done relatively major algo changes on February, and it's been a while since jagger.
Do you think that the changes will be in tune with the test DC results? or with the results that are being shown after december last week update?
Heh, just checked the test DC and saw how unstable it was just refreshing the page... one time a sites index page would rank #6 without the www, while another refresh the index page would rank #11 with the www. Canonical problems get worse every day.
It might feature some huge changes for quite some time, internal PR being changed according to the size of the new index + new filters on texlink networks or something...stay tuned google fans! :)
added: Naturally, it is suffering from major canonical issues; much worse than the ones BigDaddy had supposedly fixed for this site.
joined:June 11, 2005
I've noticed on these non-BD results that all of my pages are accurately cached and up to date, there are no supplimentals for my old site and I'm getting crawled quite regularly and updates are listed in a few days.
With BD results I've got hundreds of supplimentals, non-existant duplicates and 1 year old cache. Is it possible that we're on for a merge between the two results soon? Maybe to bring the cache up to date on the BD results and eventually lead to an overall update.
All the best
From where I sit Google has made significant progress on Homepage Canonical Problems.... it is just the ranking and the related crawling based on these infastructure changes has not been updated as a result....IMO.
The Canonical problems you are discussing (except from your precise example) - do they relate to homepages in general or internal pages?
If they are internal pages which have resulted in one going supplimental Google may not see it as an issue based on MC comments that the supplimental lays over the top of the normal results.
I 100% agree that once the new infastructure is in use then we will see big changes.