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growingdigital

3:59 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It looks like Google wasted no time integrating Urchin into their product lineup:

[google.com...]

If you pay $200/mo for Urchin now, you may want to reconsider.

[edited by: vitaplease at 8:02 am (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
[edit reason] link to source itself [/edit]

uioreanu

10:26 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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anyone knows how to take out those 17kb javascript crap out of my homepage? Maybe isolate it in an iframe

markd

11:10 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Going back to one of the first posts, can you tell me where it says on Googles TOS that this service is not available for 'commercial use'?

Is this correct?

netscan

11:18 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I can't log in, keeps redirecting to the search page... Worked yesterday.

justguy

11:38 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same problem. Guess it has been pulled for the moment :)

rubenski

11:45 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same issue here. I am being redirected to the google search page when logging in. My friends' account works though.

anandus

11:45 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's working fine here -sort of-.

Looks like it hasn't consantly monitored my site, though, although that could be my fault.

But I'm able to log in, from different computers on different locations.

A friend of mine also isn't able to log in....

netscan

11:48 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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eh, get what you pay for I guess..

justguy

12:21 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ah ha - works if you get to it from your Adsense management panel.

Looks ike they have pulled it as a service to anyone who does not have a campaign account.

Makes sense to restrict traffic while they have teething problems to existing customers only.

PaulPA

12:54 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This could go down as one of the worse service introductions I've seen from Google. As a company that prides itself on delivering well thought-out and tested products this thing is clearly not ready even for beta testing. While I do not believe that an "official" Google rep announced this service publicly (I could be wrong about this) the fact that an employee of the company did, indicates that it had someone’s blessing to go to market.

I've pulled the code from my site until they get this thing figured out.

rady

1:01 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you guys know how often are the stats updated? Clearly it's not in real-time

uioreanu

1:07 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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it's working fine on my end. It's just that it's a lot of (useless imho) flash; and crowded webpages; very much not google-like.

It's also scary how much control they gather over their visitors. This concludes the complete click stream now; from the regular john doe searching for widgets; clicking on the adwords ad for widgets, and now to his behaviour after reaching the adwords target website. No wonder they're giving this for free; it gives them so much business insight for adwords; their core money milking machine

abkaiser

2:07 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Found something else interesting in the TOS, did anyone else see it?


7. PRIVACY . You will not (and will not allow any third party to) use the Service to track or collect personally identifiable information of Internet users, nor will You (or will You allow any third party to) associate any data gathered from Your website(s) (or such third parties' website(s)) with any personally identifying information from any source as part of Your use (or such third parties' use) of the Service. You will have and abide by an appropriate privacy policy and will comply with all applicable laws relating to the collection of information from visitors to Your websites. You must post a privacy policy and that policy must provide notice of your use of a cookie that collects anonymous traffic data.

...The important bit is the last sentence. I didn't even notice that before.

Why is this necessary? Don't *all* websites collect anonymous (and not so anonymous) stats via their traffic logs? Or is it the fact we have a cookie a new factor that people need to be warned about?

uioreanu

2:14 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well the urchin.js code that is used to trigger tracking (http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js) sets a long-term cookie with the name "__utma". This cookie is set to expire on "18 Jan 2038 00:00:00 GMT"; sounds familiar? This cookie is not set to the domain google-analytics.com, but it is forced by javascript to be set in the browser as it would originate on the domain that is beeing tracked. That's the deal here so far as I could see; maybe somebody more experienced can explain better.

netscan

2:34 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looks ike they have pulled it as a service to anyone who does not have a campaign account.

Okay, so I logged in via my AdWords account, now all the data is gone and it says my code is no longer found on my site.... Does this mean I have to wait another 3 days for it to start collecting again?

attard

2:58 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dumb question time:
I had added Urchin code to some pages on some sites before the switch over to Google Analytics. The reporting shows no visits now since Google Analytics went live.

I see the code for Google Analytics is different from what I had added for Urchin. Do I need to delete the Urchin code (which pointed to a UTM file or something I had to add on my own site) and replace it with the Google analytics code which seems different? Or do I leave both there? Or doesn't it matter?

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