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8:06 am on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It seem the backlink update has begun, not surprising after the heavy spidering lately, good luck everyone!
11:58 am on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I hope you're right. These results are a real mess. Many old sites, as stated by others, have risen to the top unexpectedly. There are even off-topic sites ranking in the top 20.
12:13 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Reseller -
Still not back after Feb. 2nd. We have basically gone from 15K-20K refs per day from Google down to about 100-200. It is a mystery why. Yahoo, MSN, and Ask still provide a great amount of traffic. Therefore, I cannot change to much. Hopefully this update will bring some better news.
12:13 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Guys,
We are having the same problems. I hate relying on Google so heavily, because they have the power to trash your income in a nanosecond.
I sincerely hope the glitch rectifies, or were in trouble.

[edited by: Autoweb at 12:17 pm (utc) on Sep. 22, 2005]

12:16 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Big changes in one of my sectors. A site of mine that was buried alive 3 years ago has come to the surface (#3) for some air.
12:26 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google will force people more and more into AdWords, SEO will be dead soon.

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12:27 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My first post, but it's obvious that people are suffering here, so I thought I would chip in, hopefully in a re-assuring sense.

We host a couple of significant scientific sites, not commercial sites I might add. We wouldn't know SEO if it hit us in the face, so we have done nothing whatsoever to justify any type of penalty or downgrade.

One of these sites has today disappeared from Google to all intents and purposes. Major searches on key terms which the site covers fail to show it, even though in value terms it should be #1 on these, as it remains on Yahoo and MSN. It does appear on semi-related strange search terms though.

This doesn't lose us any money, but it is somewhat inconvenient for the public in this niche area, as they would expect to find us. There is probably more harm done to Google in this respect. Peculiar.

The re-assurance is that I would be surprised if this state of affairs remained, as there must be many many other key sites adrift as well. It cannot help Google.

Best of luck to you all.

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12:30 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>The re-assurance is that I would be surprised if this state of affairs remained, as there must be many many other key sites adrift as well. It cannot help Google.

Erm - this does not re-assure - that has been happening for months for lots of sites.

It just underlines the difficulties that Google is having.

However, I have been here long enough to try not to think on a daily basis. I will wait for a while yet.

12:40 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It can be frustrating when your site disappears from the serps and you are left with trying to figure out why. It can be even more frustrating when you employ no SEO and think you are following all the rules. Then all of sudden you are caught up in some glitch or wide-sweeping action of Google where they are trying to get rid of a certain groups of sites (scrapers, 302s, bad 301, bad links, dup content, etc...). What to do? Not sure. Submit reinclusion request? Many sites do not get removed from the index. However, there pages get pushed into oblivion. Therefore, if you submit a reinclusion request, you will get the obvious email back from Google saying you are in the index.
12:51 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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our site is still in the index. One thing is strange: with site:www.widget.com I receive more than 300.000 results. After Bourbon I always received something around 100.000.

Due to our dynamic structure the second figure is ok. We had all the last years between 100.000 and 170.000 entries.

Maybe some other dup content problem is showing up.

But I will not take any action until next monday. If the site will still be buried I'll consider starting up from the scratch again - new domain, new structure, new design.

It is really frustrating to see six years of hard work going down the drain.

12:54 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Awful waste of 6 years, just leave the site up and concentrate on MSN and Yahoo, Google isnt the be all and end all of everything, infact of late sites I look after have been getting 5 - 6 even 50% more traffic than from Google.

Just because the rubber falls off the end of your pencil does mean you have to buy a new one.

12:57 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed increased traffic from smaller referrers lately also, mainly from local and niche search engines and directories, and from other related sites.

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12:57 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Actually I have a site which Google has almost got right.

I say almost as in the site is getting crawled correctly and the homepage appears to be the most important page within the site :o!

Still ranking bad - but intresting.

1:03 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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RIP SEO
1:15 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looks like the 'giant' search engine is not capable of indexing all the pages. They probably prefer the PPC with 2% from the FREE/regular searches
1:19 pm on Sept 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i can see that sites which have had top positions in google for a long time using cloaking techniques have been removed now. Its good in one way to eliminate sites which use spam.
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