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9:39 am on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone,

I am very new and I start my site on 26 May, it's about <widgets>.
I am not good at english so writing content is like killing me, then i copied a few articles from one of the top <widgets> website and paste as my contents (of course we provide our services, too)

So far, the site jumped to PR3 since the july google update and ranked at 1 million over at Alexa.

It's CSS and html, no tables, all the tags are carefully designed (well, i admit i use some hidden text by applying css disply:none, in order to get more keyword density, however, the hidden text is less than 30% on each page).

Now, the site is ranking near top in MSN and Yahoo for almost all my keywords(it's country targetted), however, in google, no news. I can only find my site on a few very minor keywords (no competition at all).

The backlinks, google shows 8 only, yahoo shows 85 and msn shows 139 ... and more than 50% of the pages (total: 40+ ) are indexed by every of them.

I really don't know if my site is still in sandbox or not? (as i can see my site on those non-competing keywords, so i doubt) or I was penalized by google because i use display:none or duplicated content?

Please help!

[edited by: ciml at 10:56 am (utc) on July 25, 2005]
[edit reason] Widgetised. [/edit]

9:53 am on July 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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sgsurvey message 1 ...
well, i admit i use some hidden text by applying css disply:none, in order to get more keyword density

sgsurvey message 10 ...

I added in hidden text not long ago, just because i wanna test whether i am still in sandbox or my on-page factor is not enough

... nuff said.

10:27 am on July 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you use other people content without their consent and hidden keywords, you deserve a humongous penalty, if not downright banning. Thank you and dont complain next update.

*sigh*

10:42 am on July 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That googleguy says they will do something about those scrapers, is realy good news.

Another thing I dont think hidden text will get you baned, because I have seen a site with hidden text in the serps for years and they also have google adsense, but I would NEVER use those tricks, so if you are serious about your site, then make your own content/website and drop this scraper/dublication/hiddentext.

1:36 pm on July 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BeeDeeDubbleU:

I was trying to use hidden text to raise the keywords density to see whether can help on the ranking or not, it's common trial and error for beginner like me:

if i do see the change on ranking, that means i am already out of sandbox and need to do some other thing to improve;

if no change on ranking, then i am still in sandbox...

1:50 pm on July 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey guys - I use other peoples content but give full credits and we also have our unique content. How do I get google to review my site again. It's possible that the previous owner did not give credits and therefore was removed from Google/Yahoo.
Any ideas?
6:32 am on July 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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zafile, I believe some scraper sites went out today. It's something that we're going to look more at over time, too.
6:48 am on July 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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GoogleGuy

Cīmon go to bed. It must be early morning hours where you are ;-)

6:52 am on July 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What about a very clean site that ranked in the top 10 for 5 years had a page rank of 5 and had over 150 backlinks; Today it is nowhere to be found, has a pagerank of zero and shows no backlinks?
9:14 am on July 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What about a PR6 site in top 10 for its main keywords with a lot of unique content pages that went nowhere, being there for years, having rightful dmoz listing that was completely dropped from the index today?
9:15 am on July 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello GoogleGuy, please remember your thread at [webmasterworld.com...] hasn't been updated in the past few weeks.

I'm sure many WebmasterWorld members will be happy to have some fresh news.

Muchas gracias.

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