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complain about a real problem
Can't see the sandbox being a "real" problem, or a problem at all. It's there to stop the SPAM. If I start a new company called Mesothelioma Lawyers Ltd you reckon I should show up in the top 500 purely because that's my company name?
Sure, the "sandbox", whatever it is, hurts some. It hurts people who are creating sites for free traffic. Many of them are spammers/freeloaders. It also hurts others. They - particularly anyone starting a new business with a business plan that relies on free SE traffic - are probably better off staying unemployed (or employed if they can find a job). Any new site starting off on the premise that free traffic will sustain it deserves to fail.
So, if you remove the sandbox as a reasonable cause for complaint, and remove most of the other whining, we'd reduce this thread to one page and those that can't even be bothered to read it will get a personal reply from Googleguy because he owes them.
This recent update has my site at #1 for nearly all of my keyphrases. This is great, but then occasionally I check and see myself lower than I was 6 months ago -before I really started building relevant links and adding good content.
The sites before mine in the other index are terrible. They have less links, worse content, less pages, but they are ooold. Seems like that flavor of the index likes old sites. The seemingly newer flavor of the index, the one with my site ruling the SERPs, seems to like good smart links and content.
I wish Google would just pick one index or one formula and go with it. I would rather lose ranks and know I can jump ship and focus on other engines than have the whole index change drastically every day for weeks. I am not a spammer, but Google seems to be on a witch hunt that on one index kills me, and on the other has me sitting on the top.
Sorry if that post was a flip out (gotta love a first post rant) but this update seems to have been going on since mid december and it does not seem to be improving the relevancy of the SERPs for any searches.
It seems thos rolling updates bring it back in sometimes and sometimes not - very annoying. Anyways - For the past 2 days I've been using Yahoo Search, so I haven't looked much. Yahoo takes a bit of getting used to, but I am finding that things are being found faster.
joined:Dec 29, 2003
I thought GoogleGuy fixed it for you. You essentially forced him to post :). Didn't you e-mail him?
Didn't you e-mail him
Of course - I sent an email to that groups address the very moment I saw his reply (which I am grateful for). The issue has not been resolved. I stopped posting like a freak because I assumed I should give them some time to at least finish the update, however it would appear that this new update will stick at least for some time.
Interestingly, one of my main competitors is now highly ranked for a search on "mycompanyname" - so Google is actually doing me more harm than good. :( - With all the promotion and backing I've done for Google, I take this somewhat personally.
Tried MSN search and it was a bit (but just a bit) better. I eventually found what i was looking for over yahoo (within 2 minutes). Thatís what I call a search engine.
As someone already put it above. The recent google SERPs are a joke. Game over google.....your engineers need a rest. Google is no longer a SE but an ad delivery system. Time we all realise it and move on.
The recent update forced me to reduce my adsense monthly spending by more then half. Income from two of my sites is no longer the same, so is my advertising budget with adwords. A double hedged sward i guess. GG check your statistics and you'll notice that 60%-70% of your advertisers are webmasters. Hitting so many web sites (with all them illogical, bug riddled filters) IS directly hitting webmasters ad dollar budget spent on adwords. Real crap! youíll get it eventually. The sooner you do, the better for your shareholders.
[edited by: max_mm at 5:54 am (utc) on Feb. 12, 2005]