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I have never had a problem with Google indexing a site. This has nothing to do with Sandboxing.
The Sandbox exists, and it is full of cat dung.:(
Google is currently making dmoz look like an Indy Car.;)
Don't take it on lighter side, but having a name like this, you are presenting yourself to slow at many things.
My suggestion is to put links to new content from your current website pages which are indexed everyday by google. So in case there is a deep crawl, you will get your whole site indexed in one day.
I have news site, it gets indexed after every 4 days, cause we have nearly 30 websites pointing to all the new pages on one website.
If I were a Google competitor with a decent advertising budget, I would be sure to mention that "our" search engine gives users new sites as well as established sites, and point out that Google hasn't been much interested in this for months.
Good point! What if the competition started making the point that Google "cannot" display new sites for three or four months?
New pages on an existing website are normally spidered in 24hrs, indexed and are ranked accordingly in a matter of weeks or even days. The positions of the new page in the SERPS is what counts. The page’s Page Rank can take 1-3 months plus to adjust to the new ranking of the page. Basically the PR lags behind the SERP results by 1-3 months.
New websites indexed around March/April 2004 it seems now have to wait 6 months min before seeing a return on investment.
My money is the next big update is scheduled for the on the end of September ; )
I think a months quarrantine is OK, longer if the site looks spammy etc.
I've been sandboxed for over 2 months now with a site, very frustrating.
One point I have not heard mention is what happened to me recently.
I had someone considering a website, more or less decided but when he asked about Google rankings etc I warned him of the sandbox effect and he decided not to bother!
Petty I know but I lost the job all the same
Recently after reading a few posts on this forum i tried allintitle: Keyword and found my site no.6 for that keyword.
Can anyone explain to me what this means. My site doesn't exist anywhere on the serps but when i type in allintitle:keyword my site is in the top 10.
I may be wrong but I think the DMOZ listing has some sort of bearing on it!
I don't think so. I launched a site in Feb, got a DMOZ listing in May and the site has good PR, is indexed often but hardly gets any traffic from Google. I have another site that was launched a little later and is also in DMOZ but gets no more than a handful of hits from it.
How much worse could it get by adding new sites?
A worthy question.
Maybe it is as bad as any of us could imagine, trillions of pages of autogenerated content that cannot be filtered or flagged, and GoogleGuy pacing around the 'plex, muttering "you can't handle the truth!"
Or perhaps the Googlers have grown old and gray, are punching the clock, waiting for retirement, and complaining about how "back in my day, web pages did not have Copyright 2004, and we liked it."
one must wonder...
If you are having difficulty getting listed in the Google index, you may want to consider submitting your site to Yahoo! or Netscape. You can submit to Yahoo! by visiting [docs.yahoo.com...] You can submit your site to Netscape's Open Directory Project (DMOZ) by visiting www.dmoz.org. Once your site is included in either of these directories, Google will often index your site within six to eight weeks.
What might help too is AdWord. Basically, you let Google know about your site, and keywords you think are related to it. I would be surprised if it doesn't force the site to show up in the SERPs.
The above post was better than your first because you got to the point that your rankings suck.
Often people talk about the sandbox saying they get low/no traffic. That doesn't tell us anything because we have no clue how much they *should* be getting and where they are actually ranking. KnowwhatImean?
My high PR sites indexed back in Feb '04 with the 'old' ranking system should have out ranked the comp in the SERPS by now. However despite using a formula that currently works for all my sites pre '04 all new sites are currently underperforming.
I can only put this down to the 'crawling out of the sandbox effect' whereby new sites (not new pages on an existing site) are held back or filtered/dampened until a certain time has elapsed and/or a certain variety of both high and low PR inbound links are gathered.
Plus Google's IPO has put us all back a couple of months.