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5:51 pm on Aug 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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anyone seen the drop in traffic from google?
I am seeing that the traffic has dropped nearly 50 % in a day while the pages in index are the same and also the SERP have not changed that way.

I am talking about traffic of nearly 7 k from google everyday and hence its a sizable decrease.

Looking for early answers on how we could check the things

2:45 am on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lothar: our most strongly linked page is an inner one. It lost ranking for its terms in a big way. So did the home page
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< Those internal pages that had external links have not really suffered but any page that did not have an external link have lost positions heavily.

Our case exactly.

2:47 am on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Links are updating!

66.102.9.99

Looks like an update. My guess is this time PR will update and Googlebot will resume crawling the many sites which have been bot'less for the last 4 days

3:12 am on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> new link campaigns

Are we perhaps looking at a dampening system. (Again.. the iocaine reference is influencing my thought process on this.)?

If your PR or link acceleration ( PR or Link Delta / Time ) is greater than a larger sample, your recently accquired links are sandboxed (perhaps even retroactively for 3-6 months?).

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Rick, well spotted. Huge jump in links for a site that has suffered (went from 11K to 16K .. no clue how and why.. looks like a lot of spurious inbounds from inktomi / overture scapers).

<added>Also seeing an amazing improvment in the allinurl:domainname.com display for some older domains</added>

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rick,

good catch. not sure what this means, though.

my large, authoritative, "organic", non-highly keyword-optimized, non-SEO-fad-driven site has suffered a 30% decline in google traffic since last week. but this update shows my home page with a 45% increase in backlinks to more than 10,000 (largely from high-ranked pages within my own site). so i seem to be doing something right as far as pagerank goes but not according to the latest serps.

i hope you're right that things turn around somewhat (at least with regard to me - i'm agnostic as to the larger significance still) but i see no reason not to believe that non-pagerank factors are now more important for google in serps. i'm still not sure what those other factors could be exactly.

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Link update is quite useless. It does not tell anything. Does PR mean a thing? Just now checked Google directory and didn't find the usual side PR bars associates with the sites there.

Anyway, my traffic has remained same as before and I think it could be because of the industry segments it is in. (I am not in travel business.) Almost no reciprocal links.

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"Lothar: our most strongly linked page is an inner one. It lost ranking for its terms in a big way. So did the home page"

Thanks for that info Rick. That pokes some holes in my theories to some degree. Sharing info is what this place is all about.

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Will Anyone Now Put the Things together and tell all of us what has changed?
I have read many threads and have noticed that different people are saying different things.

But lot many things have come up.

I Must say that >>>

1) The external links are now valued much more than internal links.

2) Googlebot has started to come to my site again and did a fresh crawl which it stopped few days back.

3) I have seen a PR update for many pages of mine (and please don't think that i have noticed this thing wrong, cause i have checked it on toolbar and also thru some site named www.rankwhere.com which tells the Real PR of Page)

I wish others will add more points to this list of Changes that have come up suddenly.

Thanks for sharing all your Opinions.

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Dhaliwal

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Googlebot is on a spree...deep crawling my site. Let's hope the re-arrange the serps in a few days. Anyone else seeing this?
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A pure algo change doesn't explain people seeing increased traffic from Yahoo and MSN.

Perhaps, by coincidence at around about the same time, one of the widely distributed parasitic toolbars updated itself to divert google toolbar/search traffic elsewhere?

Unfortunately, when you're dealing with the #1, 2 and 4 sites at Alexa, their data won't show anything but very major changes. Plus the Alexa toolbar might not be able to detect another parasitic application lynching traffic.

Add the US holiday season to the above, and maybe the algo change isn't the major cause?

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for what it's worth, PR has been updated at the google directory, my site was on 8th position yesterday and today 1st, i checked the google cache on some other categories and it seems the update is across the board...

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"Ole' WarbuckZ is onto something" ...

Not sure if anyone else has recongized this (haven't seen it discussed yet) ...

I have a number of different sites ... Several are multiyear, "Static" sites, which are solely visitor driven ...

In trying to figure out what is currently going on, I did a VERY extensive analysis of all the log files from each site, and something very interesting came to light ...

On several sites, I employ dynamic DNS (as I'm sure that many who have ecommerce sites do) ... On others, I don't ... Strange as it seems that every site that I use dynamic DNS (I use enom, with "A" record changes) has been hit hard by the current Google movements ... But others (in which standard nameservers are used) have remained almost exactly the same ...

Very interested to know if anyone else is seeing the same ...

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On several sites, I employ dynamic DNS (as I'm sure that many who have ecommerce sites do)

You are kidding, right? Dynamic DNS for a site that you are depending on for your living?!?

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Just for the record:
I was a little sceptical about the drop in traffic - putting it down to the Summer doldrums. I'm not so sure now.
One of my main sites is down by over 60% on last Monday. On checking the SERPS there has definitely been a downward shift for some of my keywords which have been constant for months.
I think it might be time to hit the panic button!
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