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links placed after 100k of content

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2:28 am on Apr 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering, if I have a page with 200k of conetent, Google only archives the first 100k right? So if links are placed on this page after the 100k mark, they are not archived and won't have any PR transferred to them, is that correct?
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Yes they count
3:56 pm on Apr 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe:

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I wouldn't be surprised if we found/followed links after 101K, and I've heard people that I trust say we do it

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Look in the cashed page, if the link is there then it is indexed and counted.
4:16 pm on Apr 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They are certainly followed and counted towards PR. They probably do not count towards things like anchor text that most likely take place at a later time in the indexing process.

Google reads the entire file, and any activities that take place at that point seem to happen to the whole file. Then they store 100k, and everything after that seems to be limited to what they have stored.

Your best bet is to make sure that anything you care about having in the index is before that 101k point, but if you need a file to go past 100k for some other reason, then go ahead.

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Thanks a lot for the feedback everyone, it was just one thing I wanted to check on when getting links from certain sites that tend to place them very low on 100+k content pages.
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Honestly, I'm not positive. I'd run an experiment and tell us what you find out. :)
2:32 am on Apr 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>run an experiment and tell us what you find out

I did and you do.:)

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Absolutely not counting. Check on PDF or any large file. Only the links within the 100k margin will be count.
2:49 am on Apr 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I ran a site with pages of straight html varying from 98k to 130k and put 1 link on the very bottom of each.They All counted as backlinks.
However if I remenber correctly the cache of the page stopped at 100k
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The notion that items not in the Google cache do not count is incorrect - just because G stops at 101k for their cached copy of the page, does not mean they stop reading the whole page for links - which with my experiments they definitely do follow - and I've tested it up to 190k of html code - this does not include graphics as they are not counted in the cache limit either. There are some that say that G will stop following links after a certain number of links on a page, again I've seen many links get followed well over the reported level of 100 links that some purport as gospel here.

BigDave - I have seen the anchor text count well beyond the 101k size as well - I think a lot is based on the originating pages theme and PR as to how much they get counted

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Well, when I looked into it a little over 1 year ago, it definitely counted the links past 100k as passing PR. There was a page that you could only get to from 2 links that were both at around 130k+ in their files. This part I am possitive about.

I also seem to recall that they showed up as backlinks. But I am far less sure about this. Backlinks are so iffy anyway that I never really put much faith in them.

I have no desire to test whether anchor text counts or not. I have never concerned myself with anchor text.

I no longer have that sort of navigation on my system, so I will no longer be able to verify that this currently applies. And experiment from a year ago are not guaranteed to still apply today.

What I can add is that on my site there are 3 reviews that I could find where the pages went past 100k. When I checked the links at the very end, those pages did not show up as backlinks, but neither did half the other links that should have.

Actually, the largest page that I could find that was listed as a backlink anywhere was only 64k. YMMV

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"Absolutely not counting. Check on PDF or any large file."

Mmm. PDF files can have different length cutoffs. I should have said "run an experiment on HTML files and let us know what you find out." :) Also, as BigDave points, outlinks could have an effect even if they didn't fit into the cache. I don't know who BigDave is, but he is wise in the ways of Google.

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Rule of thumb: get below 100k, get below 100 links, split up into logical relations of smaller pages.
7:36 am on Apr 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>but he is wise in the ways of Google

I have always suspected the BigDave was an alias for GoogleGuy.

7:59 am on Apr 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have always suspected the BigDave was an alias for GoogleGuy.

Naw, The last job I had in the silicon valley was 15 years ago, and I ain't going back. They will get my resume as soon as they open an engineering office on the Oregon, Washington, BC or New Zealand coasts.

It's just that 25 years of writing firmware, simulation and system diagnostics gives you a lot of experience in figuring out how things work.

 

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