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I know there isn't THAT much difference between PR6 and 5, but this is contradictory in nature and seems odd to me.
Personally I think Alexa is a useful tool, albeit currently its usefulness is limited to top 1000 or so (more likely 100) sites.
joined:Oct 27, 2001
I have Alexa installed, as does many webmasters. If this theory were true than _every_ site we visit on a daily basis would already be 66% closer to being ranked within the top 20,000? (Our hit, plus the webmasters own hit)
I didn't see any major jump in my Alexa traffic ranking after I installed the Alexa toolbar. Nor have I witnessed any dramatic changes on the occasions when I've been out of town for a couple of weeks and haven't used the Alexa toolbar. (I'm usually somewhere in the 30,000 range, having climbed there slowly but steadily from the 40,000s as my traffic has grown.)
In any case, even if someone could skew the Alexa rankings with a macro or some other trick, so what? Most publishers aren't going to bother. Also, the real strength of Alexa isn't its ability to show who's a player; it's the ability to show who definitely isn't a player.
Here's an example: Let's assume that a PR person is trying to decide whether to invite the editor of antarctica-travel-articles.com on a press trip to the Ross Ice Shelf. If antarctica-travel-articles.com ranks 100 in Alexa, that may or may not be proof that the site can deliver a significant audience for the PR agency's client. The PR person is going to have to use some judgment, just as he or she would have to do if Alexa didn't exist. But, if antarctica-travel-articles.com has an Alexa traffic ranking of 289,324, the PR person can be fairly certain that the site has relatively few readers--and that it shouldn't be included on the PR agency's short list for further vetting.
Bottom line: Alexa is just a tool. It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to be perfect--it merely needs to be useful, and it is useful for some purposes (such as the example I've just given).
No - 1 ip per page view - not per site.
> agent: alexa
No, alexa does not id itself. Only certain partners that distribute the toolbar with their id have the agent=alexa moniker. You must specifically check for it with an activex construct.
Until google has the guts to release their own toolbar data, Alexa is the best measure of traffic on the web today.
joined:July 2, 2003
It could be the best "elephant spray" in the universe and it would still be useless.
Now you are getting close to understanding my point! Yes it is useless and yes it's the best there is. Just like Alexa!
John, Alexa can only rank sites by taking the info from those *using* their toolbar. You tell me what that % is of all people in the world that use the WWW. I bet it's such a low % the figures mean zip.
You can also explain to me how a site that gets 100 hits per day could be ranked around 10,000. If that does't ring any alarm bells nothing will.
To think their system is useful in analysing WWW makes you your own worst enemy.
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but I've installed alexa many times on many computers, over several different versions of windows, and EVERY SINGLE ONE identifies itself as part of the browser string sent to the web server. I'm talking about the toolbar downloaded directly from Alexa.com without changing any properties or settings in the toolbar. Far as I can tell, it does this by default from the only place I know of to download the toolbar.
Example of my own browser hitting a website:
x.x.x.x - - [12/Nov/2003:21:52:24 -0600] "GET /img/d_s.gif HTTP/1.1" 304 - "http://x.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Alexa Toolbar; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
No doubt what Alexa does is far from being completely worthless, however any system that allows for a single user to change its ranking so greatly, you must always take what Alexa says with a grain of salt.
4 "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE6.0; WindowsNT5.1; Q312461; YComp220.127.116.11; Alexa Toolbar)"
30 "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE6.0; WindowsNT5.0; AvantBrowser[avantbrowser.com]; Alexa Toolbar)"
33 "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE6.0; WindowsNT5.1; .NETCLR1.1.4322; Alexa Toolbar)"
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:19 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2003]
Also I generally look at long term trends. People that inflate Alexa results by having all their friends install the Alexa Toolbar, ussually get bored after a few weeks, as your Alexa Ranking has no impact other than boosting your ego. I rather boost my bottom line.
joined:Oct 27, 2001
Also I generally look at long term trends. People that inflate Alexa results by having all their friends install the Alexa Toolbar, ussually get bored after a few weeks, as your Alexa Ranking has no impact other than boosting your ego.
Exactly, and that's obviously one reason why Alexa says the 3-month average is the number to watch.