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engine

1:29 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I just dropped out of the Google "Meet the engineers event" to say that it was great. I don't think that this has ever been done before anywhere and it has set the benchmark.

We had the opportunity to discuss individual site issues and observations. I was involved in the 302 dscussions and it appears that many webmasters/sites suffer the same/similar problems.

It's been a great opportunity for those attending the WebmasterWorld conference and I think it's proved that Google is listening.

nakulgoyal

12:58 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Vegas for sure, but will try for the London conference as well.

vincevincevince

1:00 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So...who's up for London?

Definately - although I'm kinda hoping it will be in a different pub....

Tami_SEO

6:14 am on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As has already been said. WOW!

That was not only great information but what exquiste people! I had a great time with my new buddies... AND I remember their names even after the weird jello things... : )

Hi Kevin, Anna, Chad and Tony! House of Blues was GREAT.

I have some reading and learning to do but it will be fun. Hope the rest of you had a blast too!

Brett, you're a great host. Hope to see you all next time.

dazzlindonna

1:35 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just wanted to thank Brett and crew for a great conference. The hotel was pretty bad, but I won't hold that against WebmasterWorld. :) Had a great time. Really loved meeting online buddies, as well as tons of people I'd never talked to before. Will be leaving the hotel in a couple of hours (thank goodness), and heading home with my head full of ideas.

gage

2:42 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



The google dinner was amazing. Anyone that missed it doesn't even know how much they missed.

I thought the session halls were great, but the hotel in general was horrible. Like the poster said above I as well will not hold that against WebmasterWorld. :)

Thanks everyone for such a great experience. See you next time, -g

kevsh

3:11 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It was a great idea and I was surprised they had as many engineers as they did. However, I found some of the attendees to be pushy and basically ignoring etiquette. Because there was no actual "lineup" to talk I noticed a few taking advantage.

In any event, I got some important questions answered, enjoyed the food (and drinks) and was extremely pleased with the forum.

Hope this becomes a regular thing for them :)

kevinpate

3:35 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> ... noticed a few taking advantage

What?! Some small number of webfolks were taking advantage and trying to hog the best spots all for themselves?!?!?

Why, who ever heard of such a thang? :)

I gotta make one of these soon, even if I don't do this for a living, sounds like there definitely is the potential to do some living

dataguy

3:40 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Had a great time, learned an incredible amount.... and we thought the hotel was great. I mean, often hotel staff start to have problems when the hotel is so full, but I didn't see any problems myself. And I can't remember the last time I paid only $60 a night in a hotel.

spaceylacie

11:13 pm on Jun 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wow, I met the Google Guys and one Google Girl, who, by the way, prefers to be called a Google Engineer. Learned just about everything I needed to know. They were unbelievably helpful. I got a few direct answers that I didn't expect. To those who did not attend, glad I'm not you.

Pubcon was awesome as well. I met just the right people. Just, WOW!

I have one word to describe the entire experience: overwhelming. My "to do" list will take me 6 months. Better hire some help soon.

stretched500

2:09 am on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This was my first conference. It was great... looking forward to the next one.

Does anyone know what the next PubConf will focus on? Both London and Vegas?

incrediBILL

2:22 am on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Vegas I sure won't miss, maybe adopt a new psuedonym to avoid scrutiny first...

It's been about 10 years since I was last in London, that would be a hoot, not sure what my spousal unit would think about hopping the pond to just sit in a pub as she's not fond of beer.

Hmmm....

MetricsGuru

4:40 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was pretty happy with the New Orleans Conference too and I met a lot of people and even remember some of their online names!

Got alot of good info on Google SiteMaps, Duplicate Content and SEO Tools. Here's the brief summary of what I got of the Wednesday session:

The Google people use the term “Sandbox” but it means specific kinds of behavior; they don’t subscribe to the idea that all new sites fall into a sandbox.

Google confirmed that they probably do use CTR as a ranking factor with qualifications – they have to determine when people are gaming the system and clicking on their own urls, etc.

The engineer I spoke with did not agree with my definition of Duplicate content on websites. I did not get the feeling though,they actually knew for sure how the duplicate content penalty was invoked. If content looked identical but it was clear the data was sourced from somewhere else (therefore, not a copy), the engineer said this should not be a penalty.

There was a lot of talk about LSI at the conference; however, I don’t know if any of the engineers actually addressed it in detail.

None of the Engineers at Google use the tools we do; they are more like statisticians and speak a different language (ie: Signal noise, etc). That’s the one thing I think we need to bridge. I suggested that Engineers at Google look at the SEO tools in use and express an opinion on the ones they think are useful (or not).

I also go some very direct info on Sitemaps for a large site of a client of mine with 11 million pages; the Google Engineer knew of my clients' sitemap! I was very impressed.

Great Show Brett!

larryhatch

4:55 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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.. and a good post Metricsguru!

I'm sure any further nuggets from Google would be welcomed too.
As for Signal/noise, that's probably in reference to the famous "signal to noise ratio"
used in all sorts of electronics, radio, communications and engineering.
Everyone wants to improve their S/N ratio, i.e. more signal and/or less noise.
The same formulas might apply to content over junk if you catch my drift;
but that's only speculation on my part. -Larry

caveman

7:10 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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... specific kinds of behavior ...

Hehe. No one who was paying close attention over the past year subscribed to the nonsense that all new sites get hit. But for the still-non-believers, hats off to MetricsGuru for being in the thick of things and accurately restating this critically important tidbit.

And some people wonder if it's worth it to attend the PubCon's. Go figure.

arran

8:07 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting post Metricsguru - thanks.

Google confirmed that they probably do use CTR as a ranking factor

What!? Any more details? ;)

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