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10:28 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just got an email telling me there was a new TOS. I have not looked through everything yet to see what has changed.

Funny though, they messed up the link in the email.

10:36 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dang, beat me to it. :)
10:48 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You just need to delete the last character "," on the link.
11:01 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't have a "," in my link and I get a 404. Is this the same TOS as in the footer of the login page?

Maybe someone can post the changes they did here?

11:43 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I managed to see the page, but it's an ugly legal document so I have no idea what has changed from the last one.
12:16 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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well.. here's something i noticed:

"Exclusivity. For any webpage or RSS feed that includes the Ad Code, you agree not to display or link to any other advertising (including but not limited to any listing) that is mapped to or responds to the content of the Ad Page."

so does this mean you can use normal banner ads, but not like say "google" ads?

1:12 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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so does this mean you can use normal banner ads, but not like say "google" ads?

Yes, but Google AdSense basically has the same term (no competing ads), so that's not a big one. That's been in there from the get-go.

According to Jenstar, I think all they changed was that your site can't have or promote adware/spyware/trackware and that you cannot be an employee of Yahoo or be a business owned by a Yahoo employee.

JK

11:55 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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you cannot be an employee of Yahoo or be a business owned by a Yahoo employee.

I think its too much sometimes when corporations limit what their employees can do. It seems that the do not want their employees owning their own business or by putting ads up on their own sites. I noticed that Jeremy's blog doesnít have YPN or Google Adsense. I think he had both of them on there off and on before. Looks like The Big Y Corporate people are not going to let employees make more money than them!

12:27 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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same TOS as before basically
2:01 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't have the old TOS on hand, but do you see anything about reduction for out of country clicks?
3:03 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think its too much sometimes when corporations limit what their employees can do.

What they are limiting is the potential for Yahoo employees to manipulate the system from the inside for their own ends. Think of insider trading. Those rules apply to any contest, raffle, lottery, public service, etc.

In many cases you can justify an employer not wanting to *compete* against its employees by prohibiting them from engaging in similar business activities independently. You learn something cool at work, then you go home and apply the same business model to your moonlighting job... You end up being an employer with a bunch of spies working for you who are more focused on the success of their own interests than the success of the whole group.

Sometimes the opposite is true; you want to hire people who are innovating in their own businesses, and encourage them to do it. We have many people on staff that have successful personal websites, and they bring their expertise to our collaborative operations. Often the experiments and failures are done by employees at their own risk, and as a group we share only the best successful techniques.

10:17 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[boingboing.net...]

Boing boing is running a story the says that YPN users can not display ads to IPs outside the US - can this possibly be true?

12:56 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)



of course it's possibly true. I hope they stay that way.
1:01 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)



that article is totally misleading.. that individual, if he'd read YPN terms, should have known he couldn't show ads to non-US visitors.

He makes it sound like this is something new when most of us have been dealing with this for months.

6:13 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Everyone,

Wyweb- I like your post ;-)

Iíve noticed there have been several discussions (like this one) about our publisher traffic policies, so Iím writing to offer some guidance. As you know, our publisher terms and conditions prohibit displaying ad listings to users outside of the U.S. This is because the beta is intended for publishers who support primarily a US audience.

That said, we do want to help our publishers with this situation. Therefore, we are going to work with our team in the coming weeks to create some solutions that our publishers can choose to use. Iíll be sure to follow up soon.

I know this post doesnít offer immediate help, but Iím confident that these efforts will be helpful in the long run. As always, please keep sending me your feedback.

YahooSarah

6:34 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OvertureRep: glad you are going to work on this. It's technically *impossible* to determine 100% if an internet user is from the US or not... - nobody could possibly claim that - typical example would be an IBM worker working in Sweden using their company intranet and being routed through an US proxy to the 'internet'.
Even the most accurate and expensive location databases claim 99% accuracy at the most.

[edited by: freeflight2 at 6:36 am (utc) on Mar. 23, 2006]

6:36 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks YahooSarah, I will be looking forward to seeing it.
 

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