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11:58 am on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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This is an update of some kind and i don't like, can they release this one?
12:57 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Also on WWW2 now.
2:08 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Looks like the google dance is starting lazerzubb.

I'm seeing a new site that I've added, updated directory descriptions and some new pages.

Good luck all :)

2:14 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I have gotten a major penalization.
2:19 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>major penalization.

Join the club Lazer, I have a feeling membership will see a big increase this update.

2:22 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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The dance has most definetly started, question i think is when will it stabilise > ?

tried a few things too bump up some of the two key word ranks, no real change. will see if this changes.

2:24 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I see some major sites in my theme just dropped!!!
and these sites have 1 million visitors every month i wonder how they are going to like this?
2:48 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Horrible. Thats all I have to say. It seems every site of mine that didn't have that "penality" before now has it, and most of these sites haven't been touched since the last update, which means there's no reason there should be any penality now if there wasn't one last update. But, then again, there is no reason any of my sites should have any type of penality of any kind, but that's a whole other post.

Oh, almost forgot, by "penalty" I mean that wonderful "your site is still listed, still has 100's of links pointing to it from places like the ODP and Yahoo, yet your site has a 0 pagerank (had a 6 pagerank last update) and ranks dead last for every possible search relating to anything on your site."

2:57 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Perfection
It's exactly the same position i am in, but i have more links.
3:08 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Lazer,

I am in the same position as perfection. Could you please inform this too googleguy?. This is terrible:(

3:12 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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hi.

(edited by: lazerzubb at 4:30 pm (gmt) on Dec. 27, 2001)

3:36 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Directory doesnt appaer to have updated yet. Although I have sites that have just got ODP descriptions and catagory but dont appaer in the directory yet.

www2 is showing cache from 13 december

Alot of ' Link to ' have been lost on nearly all my sites!

www1 is down for me right now

3:56 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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www2 updated for us, all major changes are reflated, no referral so far from new index pages so i can't say how they will be ranked. for some of the pages it says "fresh!" and i am not sure what it means beside being fresh. amazingly, pages that are in dmoz are crawled daily. dmoz links to some of older versions of our content and despite our requests will not update them so we have duplicate content in google at this moment, though not penalized for this i trust. i've changed the whole architecture to static to see how that will affect the ranking.
3:59 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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It looks like Amazon and Oingo are jamming serps, total cloaking, redirects and irrelevance.

I know we are not supposed to use this forum as a tattletale forum, but the jamming is wholesale and ridiculous.

4:05 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Update live on WWW.
4:07 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Google is finally giving me some love after 8 straight updates of what I call the "pmac" penalty. I can only hope it sticks.
4:08 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Do you have any inbound links from FFA or Guestbook pages ?
4:23 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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All going well on ww2w2 for my sites , got some new ones in with PR5 first time !!! Some competitor sites in my catorgories have been badly hammered though
4:26 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Maintained or bettered our kws, although one site just disappeared.

All in all, quite happy.

5:23 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Dont you guys and girls ever take time off! ;)

Big Penalisation on some of my major clients sites and competitors have overtaken us on some key terms.

Clients get back on the 7th so Ill have some explaining to do if these results remain!

5:42 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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whats time off ???? ;)
5:57 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Brand new site, dmoz, Y! and more directory listings, totally clean, no crosslinking whatsoever: POOF! Completely vanished.
Perhaps we should drop this penalty thing and think more along the lines of overload on Google's side.
It's fine to grow your index seemingly with a snap of a finger, it's fine to constantly add new features, fine to speed up crawling - as long as you're still able to get the basics right.
A site that is in Dmoz and Y! and other catalogues of some standing should be findable in Google's index.
6:07 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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heini, don't worry that is not that uncommon I've had it happen to a couple of my sites. It's in google right off the hop and the at the first full update it's gone. Be patient and it will show up again, next update.
6:16 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Good call, watt. Always dangerous to jump to conclusions from throwing together different things.
You are right about new sites. Lets see what others have to report about the update.
6:31 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Two sites just got into the DB.....we had been waiting about a month to two months.

And the site that had previously been booted by Google is now back in, and it has the Fresh tag!

6:35 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Only in google2...

-2 of my 7 new sites have been indexed.
-Directory update!
-#1 ranking(non-competitive KWs)

The GoogleGods have smiled upon me, may they do the same for all of you!

6:59 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone noticed that the EPMN glitch has not been fixed yet?
7:15 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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OK, www2 is the only address currently showing the most recent update.
7:30 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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www1 still down
7:31 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I haven't been able to reach www1 all day.
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