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Oh, almost forgot, by "penalty" I mean that wonderful "your site is still listed, still has 100's of links pointing to it from places like the ODP and Yahoo, yet your site has a 0 pagerank (had a 6 pagerank last update) and ranks dead last for every possible search relating to anything on your site."
www2 is showing cache from 13 december
Alot of ' Link to ' have been lost on nearly all my sites!
www1 is down for me right now