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webguybri - stick around a while - you'll find that most of us are a little smarter than that.
eljefe3 - Yeah, well googleguy has already stated he won't talk around the scoring, but this is just a little bit too weird - top 10 to bust and back again - surely you can give us a hint googleguy?
This is the first time I've ever seen the toolbar AND the directory updated with page ranks (with the arrival of the new SERPS); it seems new to me.
For anyone that can't see it, it is a total spam page (full of hidden text), not on rcx's domain, and a redirect at that! Also, it is not on the same ip block (not anywhere close).
But when I went back to look at the url (on the SERP), it was gone. I can't duplicate it but I have a window open where I pinged the site and I do know the url.
Now I'm getting calmed down, and I think probably this is the google db shifting, probably returning errors, but now seems to be fixed. But the question is, what if there is some kind of problem with the db that is making some of our sites disappear off the map every once in a while? We're associated with some other URL that we have nothing to do with?
Ok, I just typed in one of my own URLs and the same site came up...What gives?
[Added another...Sorry ;) ]
I'm going to give the url, not in link format, if the moderators see fit to remove it, I won't be offended:
I think we need people to be clearer on the sites they refer to as penalized.
Anyway - I too get the "EPIMMUNE" Penalty one one of my sites. My site is being associated with this company - and so are the others that come up with that link.
You must type in YOUR DOMAIN NAME in the box to see it or not. Please report your PR as all white, all gray, or a# and whether it is associated with showing stock quotes for EPMN when talking about this penalty.
Oddly only one of the three exhibits this behavior - it also has no similar pages listed - and the link for similar pages on the ID PAGE has GOOGLE as my similar page link.
Both were buried before the last update and both suffered +20 on July 6/7...then came back in August for about 2 weeks.
One new site...Very similar...but none link together...has no effects.
The site it goes to does not appear to be in google either.
All this makes me think this is a google hiccup - rather than a penalty.
What about a DNS hijack. (I know only a little - somebody correct me - The UA requests an IP from a domain name server, then that is returned - then the UA sends not only the IP but the domain name in the request - correct?)
So what if a domain name server was messed up somehow, or hacked - Is this possible?
And if it is a penalty, maybe google thinks that that page is the end of the internet. So we get listed at the end, so to speak.
I have my top level domain with white pixels. :(
Thankx for the helps guys!
joined:Nov 20, 2000
Why can't Google just be open and honest and tell us what it is we are NOT supposed to be doing here? If they say don't do it I won't... but I just don't know what IT actually is.
focus on wisenut, they spider as good as google in terms of search result quality and their index is catching up with the googlies.
think to thew future, do not get caught up in the prsent.
Spam is a very, very, small problem for Google. It seems to bother webmasters more than anyone else.
I did a search on viagra and online casinos - both had results that competing webmasters would whine and complain about.
The "online casinos" had listings with links to "links to you" and viagra has some subtler - yet still "spam" techniques being used.
Overall the results were good - just as in Google. However, wisenut has a time and date gateway of July.
I wish they would revise their identity though. I cant stand their logo. reminds me of Pringles... going off topic blah..blah..
Anyone else coming across Google showing a credit lending site listed instead of your own?
Sorry, dont misunderstand me. Wisenut is a serious contender as far as size and relevance goes. It is a great search engine, but I'm just not keen on its frontend and although I have some excellent rankings with Wisenut, I dont think I've ever seen a referal from it.