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I've been waiting 8 months to get indexed on Google. I tried submitting my page to Google directly, joining their adwords program for a few days, etc. But the thing that finally got me indexed was signing someone's guestbook!
Holding breath: Hopefully, there are 120 replacements that will show up when referrals start coming in off the new db.
Only change to the format in the last two months? Added <META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOARCHIVE">
We'll wait 'n see...
Very strange and very disheartening! I've also been seeing a lot more 404 pages in the top ten lately although I haven't seen any so far for this update - but I've only looked a little.
I was going to take it down, guess I'll have to keep it now but sure *won't* be doing anything to it since it is the only thing that may save my you know what again this month.
There is a lot of movement going on in google. For my main KW - medium competitive with nearly 2.000.000 pages -
the top30 shows significant differences. #1 has come up from second page.
We should really try to get a grip on this.
Take a very close look at those pages and the rest of the site, if you find anything dodgy you could elevate yourself by 30 positions in one go....
I have some pages with very high PageRank (higher than every competitor out there in the ODP). Some do very well and some do poor. It almost seems as though the smaller pages with high PR do better, but that is just from my small sample.
I also seem to have noticed that my adult pages have gone down in ranking for targeted keywords (in general) while the reverse is true for my non adult pages. I had been spending most of time promoting adult in the last two months, so I was kind of suprised.
On a side note, whatever happened on July 7th is still effecting some of my sites now, in that pages that previously ranked in the top 5 or top 10 are now in the 20's and 30's. I still can't figure out why.
What prompts me to wonder this is the number of 404's and 403'3 I've run across over the last month and the serps (last & current update) that are delivering a number of pages that have little to do with the given search term.
Also, it isn't just my site, but most of my competitors that also used to be on the top 1-3 pages have also dropped and been replaced with sites I haven't seen much of at all in the last 6 months -or- what appear to be almost new sites with little link popularity.
All by byitself this kind of shifting is natural, but when 50-75% of all the top ranking sites from the last 6-12 months fall significantly for my group of relatively competetive KWs .....
I've also seen 404s, but the update hasn't reached what I check yet.
I haven't seen any changes yet, even the cached pages are the old ones that have been there for months.
Chris_R, I have been consistently seeing hidden text at Google, done different ways. The ones I've seen aren't even hard to detect.
How did I ever miss this board?
I feel like singing that doo-dah-dee-doo-dah alien jingle. www2 is back to showing almost the same line up for one KW as it was all last month but - my cached page is new.
I think google is out to mess with our minds. I'm going to stop checking, at least, try to until later tonight. I love a good mystery, but ...
Three of my major competitors are using hidden text HEAVILY and have been getting away with it for years. They beat my site (almost) every time on Google except for the few keywords where I am ranked #1 on DMOZ. It seems to work that way on many other engines that use DMOZ as well.
I don't know when (if ever) Google is going to do anything about it but I had a note from them a year ago saying that there was no existing rule against hidden text unless it was being abused. One of them has over 200 keywords hidden in his index page. If that isn't abuse ... I don't know what is. I am so confused ...