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DEA closes 4,600 pharmacy websites

Can we hope for less V!@g*a spam?

     

Nikke

11:20 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Recognizing that criminals are facilitating more drug-related crimes through the use of 21st century technology, the DEA, along with their law enforcement counterparts today arrested 18 people for allegedly selling pharmaceutical drugs illegally over the Internet. Those arrested include the ringleaders of more than 4,600 rogue Internet pharmacy websites.

[dea.gov...]

kaled

4:58 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, I'm still getting crappy pharmacy spam but it's good news anyway. Perhaps it's the start of something big - we can but hope.

Kaled.

rmjvol

5:01 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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These alleged criminal pharmaceutical drug traffickers averaged more than $50,000 a day in profits from their illegal Internet based enterprise.

I'm betting it wasn't mainly Viagra they were pushing.

iblaine

5:09 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It would seem to me that these people were shut down due to pushing their luck. Selling controlleds like valium is going to bring attention. The article also states codeine cough syrup was sold to local drug traffickers directly from the backdoor of warehouses so not all offenses were related to ecommerce. Plenty of online pharms still exist that are much more reliable than this operation so I wouldn't count on a decrease in spam.

woop01

5:18 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It would seem to me that these people were shut down due to pushing their luck.

I've always heard that's what brings down 95% of the criminals in the world. The other 5% have retired to the Caribbean.

aleksl

5:53 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



Can'd to politics here...well, as apolitical as it gets, but it seems so that US drug cartel is trying to get profits squeezed here...they already baned a few "natural product" type over-the-counter products that've been used in other countries for decades...

he-he, that $75, 3-pill-in-a-box worthless antibiotic my lady just bought...could've used $2 over the counter natural product instead.

walkman

7:13 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> could've used $2 over the counter natural product instead

yeah sure. Antibiotics are just a big hoax. People weren't dying before penicillin was invented

Tropical Island

7:35 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The other 5% have retired to the Caribbean.

I am not a crook! \/ \/

nuevojefe

8:52 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> I'm betting it wasn't mainly Viagra they were pushing.

A lot of pharms sell fake drugs too. There's a lot of laws being broken in that one act.

Less spam? heh, not likely. Even so, if people get turned off of this market due to legality they're just gonna come after another market.

hfwd

9:30 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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4,600 websites? 18 people? That averages 255.6 websites per person! They should just do Adsense.

aleksl

11:12 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



walkman: yeah sure. Antibiotics are just a big hoax.

K, go do some reading before you use sarcasm. I'll give you one, but there's lots more. for instance "white willow bark", has been used for centuries by chinese to relieve pain and reduce fever; one of the first substances your beloved penicilling was extracted from.

The problem with "bad pharmacies" is not because "they steal", but because the whole focus of "good pharmacies" (and I use quotes intentionally here) is on putting people on continuous medication instead of curing them; that, and because you rightfully can't patent natural products in US.

This is JMHO

[edited by: aleksl at 11:15 pm (utc) on Sep. 22, 2005]

walkman

11:14 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



case settled: when you get a bad infection you go and buy that bark, I will go to the doctor.
To each his own.

tictoc

11:46 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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**They should just do Adsense.**

They cant do adsense on most drugs.

esllou

9:39 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think I would rely on bark always but there is a culture of medicine-dependency now been created in the USA...by the companies that make huge profits of course.

I read in the aftermath of Katrina that one of the big concerns were the hundreds of thousands of evacuees who were suddenly without their pills. I heard a figure of "about half the refugees". That story created quite a stir here in Italy where maybe 10% of people are taking medication. Diet has something to do with it, but so does the "medication pushing" culture that exists.

mrMister

10:03 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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4,600 websites? 18 people? That averages 255.6 websites per person! They should just do Adsense.

Nah, that's 1 web site and 4,599 doorway pages I reckon, They've got Yahoo! search sussed ;-)

Gilad

11:01 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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that's 1 web site and 4,599 doorway pages

so many people for one website? :-)

walkman

12:28 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> I heard a figure of "about half the refugees".

Yp, you heard right. 46% of US takes a pill. As someone said, we love to take our Zocor pills as we drive to McDonalds. I paid $400+ a month for health insurance, even though I have't seen a doctor in 4-5 years. I'm pissed, but honestly the drug companies are doing what it takes to increase their profits. The Congress oughta step in, since the people are apparently to gullible.

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[edited by: trillianjedi at 12:50 pm (utc) on Sep. 23, 2005]
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designhaus

12:44 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I cant hope for more! I hope the DEA closes the whole schebang down!

jessejump

12:56 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>> that $75, 3-pill-in-a-box worthless antibiotic

With insurance, anibiotics probably cost about a quarter a piece. he he

HRoth

5:37 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Without a doctor’s visit, sometimes without a prescription, without consulting with a pharmacist, any drug abuser with enough cash could have almost any quantity of prescription drugs-with door to door delivery."

I am so glad that we have been protected from these five ghastly fiends and their 4000+ websites. I often lie awake nights terrified that someone somewhere out there is buying prescription drugs online, sometimes without even a prescription.

Oh the horror.

nakulgoyal

10:30 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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this is an interesting news, less spam in out inbox. And less work G has to do to filter out spam.

Tom_Dalton

10:40 pm on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"I am so glad that we have been protected from these five ghastly fiends and their 4000+ websites. I often lie awake nights terrified that someone somewhere out there is buying prescription drugs online, sometimes without even a prescription."

We're not the victims of these types of crimes. The victims are the average (sorta' dumb) people out there. Or at least, the people who are not active participants on webmaster forums. People who trust the Internet far more than they should, who live on a fixed (and small) income and try to stretch their dollars.

Often, these orders aren't even fulfilled -- so it's not so much a question of illegally selling prescription drugs as it is a question of outright fraud and theft. How would you feel if the government shut down a bunch of sites selling cars that had been stuffed with sawdust to quiet the defective engines?

The government doesn't need to protect you and me from this type of thing. But it does feel it should protect the elderly, the uneducated, and the gullible.

Get_em

8:24 pm on Sep 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Once again WebmasterWorld shows that a high percentage of the posters have not got a clue as to what they write about.

HRoth

10:54 pm on Sep 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, the DEA article didn't say these guys were bilking people. In fact, it seems they were angry precisely because these guys WERE filling orders.

isuccess

4:46 am on Sep 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Boy, how many sites would they shut down if they went after all the guru sites out there? (:-

That's nasty. Imagine the look on the faces of those affiliates who just now finally started to make money on the Internet...bummer.

Matt Probert

6:20 pm on Sep 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> could've used $2 over the counter natural product instead
yeah sure. Antibiotics are just a big hoax. People weren't dying before penicillin was invented

Actually, yes.

Although antibiotics are not a hoax, they are very dangerous substances that kill people. But in some cases they do reduce the time for the body to repair itself by about 24 hours. If in doubt, ask some serious questions of your GP, and I mean serious questions.

Try "why are you prescribing me antibiotics when I have a viral infection?" That always gets a red face.

Matt

CliffR

12:17 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We're not the victims of these types of crimes. The victims are the average (sorta' dumb) people out there. Or at least, the people who are not active participants on webmaster forums. People who trust the Internet far more than they should, who live on a fixed (and small) income and try to stretch their dollars.

Most people buying prescription medications online aren't doing it to save money. A lot of people pay much more than they would with a legitimate prescription at their local pharmacy. How often are you getting spammed with antibiotic or insulin ads?

walkman

12:46 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> How often are you getting spammed with antibiotic or insulin ads?

I agree. Plenty of "upstanding" citizens are addicted. The doctors eventually cut them off, so the web is their savior.

Herb75

5:51 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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op's can be (and often are) cheaper than if you dont have insurance to pay for your prescriptions. If I had to come out of pocket for my monthly rx I could save approx $50 a month on my meds if I got them through an op.

these people who were shut down were selling every controlled substance the dea goes after (primarily hydro & weight loss uppers).

 

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