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11:48 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A small sign atop all Lycos communities today told the bad news:

After February 1, 2004, Lycos Communities will be discontinuing service and information stored here will no longer be accessible.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and truly thank you for your past loyalty and support.

[clubs.lycos.com...]

[specials.lycos.com...]

12:00 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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so millions of people are looking for new communities. Really interrested if we will see any signs of that in the keyword statistics for january/february.

Nevertheless I don't understand why they drop the users? Every user who likes a site will come back and leave his personal info. So why let them go? Building communities becomes harder every day I'd say.

12:04 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> don't understand why they drop the users?

The phrase "worthless bandwidth suckers" comes to mind.

12:11 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Got to love the advance notice....what a whole 5 days? Did they inform users ahead of this one or just drop the other shoe?
12:15 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ya get what ya pay for. ;-)
12:33 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go to geocities, good storage and good tools.
12:36 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I find this surprising. With all the $$ that social networking sites are attracting these days, you would have to think there would be some more graceful transition away from communities than just cutting them out. At the minimum, I would have expected to see some more community features rolled in to Matchmaker. Looks to me that their hand was forced... terra / telefonica shareholders getting impatient?
12:43 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> The phrase "worthless bandwidth suckers" comes to mind.

That's good, but I think the real phrase is might have gone something like: "Those high maintenance worthless bandwidth suckers".

That stuff takes massive infastructure and support.

12:45 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't see any notices atop Tripod or Angelfire, also Terra Lycos free webpage communities.

1:07 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anyone notice how they had direct links to hardcore porn from their home page in the evenings last week? One of the top three images read "In Adult...".

Crazy... makes me sad to see Lycos go down like that.

1:48 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Or maybe spin it this way, "after years of bad management and clueless business decisions by lackluster Lycos executives we have now decided that the users we once courted so heavily are now 'worthless bandwidth suckers'" ;)
3:23 am on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hmm..., i bet a redirect would have been worth
some money to someone.

1:56 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go to geocities

Or buy some proper web hosting - it only costs $5 a month for a basic package which is far superior to anything that Tripod or Geocities offers. You don't sign away your rights to your site either, nor will it be plastered with ads for which you get no revenue, nor will it be shut down with hardly any warning. I can't understand why anyone would use the free services for anything other than posting pictures of their cat, or other pointless personal home pages.

4:48 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey, encyclo, I'm sure many cats would disagree. ;) Being a dog person, though, I do agree - not just with the cat part, but with your point about how cheap web hosting is.

I know that many people put untold hours into these "free" sites - certainly it's worth five or ten bucks a month to get proper hosting and have full control of your destiny. That's a pretty cheap hobby.

5:10 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My cat, of course, has her own subdomain on my professional (and professionally-hosted) site! So, I'd add to my last post and say that even cats should get proper hosting!

I think that if people actually read the TOS on the free hosting sites, the vast majority would think twice before building their site there...

6:14 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You get what you pay for. Unfortunately Geocities and their ilk are not worth paying for even at $5 bucks a month.
11:36 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I know what you are saying about the quality of the hosting, but I do think services like that have a part to play on the web. They are the "on-ramp". Its pretty easy to set up a site on a service like that and then work out whether you have the time or interest to keep building it up to the point where it is worth paying.
Its easy for us here to forget that building your first site can be a bit of a leap of faith
1:31 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have no problems with the concept of those services and actually think there is a tremendous opportunity there, but Geocities, Homestead, and Tripod are all still living in 1999 and have not rolled anything interesting out in years.
2:09 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Geocities... not rolled anything interesting out in years.

Didn't they recently add PHP discussion forums to their package?

1:48 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> The phrase "worthless bandwidth suckers" comes to mind.
That's good, but I think the real phrase is might have gone something like:

-> How about "Those high maintenance free porn hosted framed site worthless bandwidth suckers"

2:17 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go to geocities, good storage and good tools.

Can they survive the next couple of years? Proper hosting is now ultra-competitive, and they must be losing amazing amounts of money just on the recent surge of pop-up and ad-killers that have recently come to market?

TJ

7:18 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)



Well, I know what I'm going to do about it..

Its ovious that these members will need some place else to chill and talk.. right..

So this is a great oprtunity to let them know that I have forums available that they can come to...
Some one elses loss will be my gain.. EH!

2:57 am on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Currybet, I agree -- I started my site on Geocities, and I would not have been able to get into this business without the option to start for free. It's a shame if this option goes away.

Also a shame that these stupid corporations cannot figure out how to profit from their communities. I would've remained a loyal (and eventually paying) Geocities user forever if they'd treated me right. These dodos even asked me at one point to join a special free "popular pages" program, then forgot all about their own free program and emailed me saying I was being dropped for not paying for the service THEY offered ME free -- duh. And there were many other unnecessary problems. Duh duh duh. You couldn't pay me to use Geocities today.

8:09 am on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Fairla beat me to it. I set up my first site, a truly
worthless bandwidth sucking poetry site (with words about
cats included) on Geocities. Look where it got me, sitting
with the big dogs at WW. But the real question is how much
bandwidth can a single worthless poetry site really suck
up? I bet I get all of 3 visitors a year... and I doubt
any of them return.

Personally, I think its sad to see any Community Forum just
get dumped. Friendships are formed, bonds are made, common
interests are united... and it just wouldn't happen "as
well" if all those nice folks spent their $5.00/mo for
their own site.

grandpa

4:00 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ya get what ya pay for. ;-)

LOL, yes absolutely. They had no contract, and therefore no responsibility for the clubs going and such.

4:15 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Grandpa, for every low-bandwidth, low-maintenance poetry site there are probably a hundred image-heavy Britney and game sites. Probably a lot more support issues than you generated, too.

Finding a good business model for a bandwidth/support intensive free service is a challenge. Maybe if ad rates keep firming up or if you can provide attractive paid options, you can avoid losing your shirt. It's not easy, though.

4:22 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Have a site at tripod and can see nothing about discontinued services.
 

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