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5:03 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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My only real wish for change at WebmasterWorld is that some system be put in place to devalue less informative posts or value the more informative posts. Nothing frustrates me more on WebmasterWorld than having to click through pages upon pages of posts like this:

"My site saw a decline"
"My revenue is down"
etc etc

Perhaps you allow moderators to hide such posts? Or maybe users can "like" good posts and "dislike" bad posts?

Another idea would be to create an authority status for contributers who routinely post informative and insightful info. As an example call it "Supreme Court" status. Then allow users to opt in to only view posts from Supreme Court contributers. This makes finding good info easier for users and provides an incentive for contributers to post better info instead of just clogging the forums with inane and useless comments.

All that said, I love WebmasterWorld and really have no complaints. This is just a suggestion since you asked about it.
5:07 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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There's link for the "Library" on every forum which is a collection of better topics.

Changing the forum from chronological order would cause a lot of problems.
5:13 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Current setup works for me. I would not be happy with a "vote best" structure...
6:04 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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No on the "official" "voting" (by whatever name) system.

Posts here already fall down the list fast enough on their own, all it takes if for members to not post to them.

If members just skip the threads they don't like and simply start threads that attract a ton of posts, ..... problem solved.
6:41 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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No on the voting up or down posts. There have been many golden nuggets offered in small posts where the value was not appreciated by the masses. Those who saw the value - kept quiet. This is one of the strengths of WebmasterWorld.
8:43 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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or maybe something like Slashdot where you can select a top level category that the post should be contained under, influenced by group votes
10:02 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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While some threads DO digress, it's easy enough to just skim past irrelevant posts. Besides, voting could too easily breed abuse and manipulation. Just ask Simon Cowell. So, ironically enough, I vote 'no' for voting!
10:09 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Can we not have "Sort by" rating/time?
10:14 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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No on voting please. Always possible to contact a mod and have a great thread (or one with a nugget) manually added to the library if it has been overlooked.

I feel strongly about this:
The strength of WebmasterWorld is respecting others views: The truly mindless posts get dealt with by mods/admin, or dropped off during some sort of forum consolidation - I watched a few simply disappear last year.

Voting is about shooting the messenger based on a highly subjective opinion - and never being accountable for deciding good/bad.

Every poster informs, just in a different way. If I'm not interested, someone else will be. No need to vote good/bad. Just be polite enough to move on.

No voting please
10:14 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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No on the voting up or down posts. There have been many golden nuggets offered in small posts where the value was not appreciated by the masses. Those who saw the value - kept quiet. This is one of the strengths of WebmasterWorld.

Me too! Those are where the best posts are, in those threads.

Plus, if my revenue ever declines, whats the first thing I want? My own thread.
10:19 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I have to say that voting or rating in some new way would probably just screw things up. As has been said, the forum 'libraries' archive 'best of' posts. Also, I have seen posts from sub-forums get bumped to the main page if the subject warrants it. This is all the 'rating' I need.
5:56 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I also "vote no" on voting...however, I love to dip my cup into the stream that is Twitter every so often. A "share" button is certainly easy to implement. I keep WebmasterWorld on my iGoogle desktop and am always dropping in to visit (although I rarely post on these forums).
6:18 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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If anything is on the table, why not allow people to rate posts, and others to "ignore" this feature. Those who just want to pop in and see the strong conversations that are proving valuable can do so, those who want to see based on time can do so also. No reason both options can't be offered.
6:26 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Rating or voting on posts opens an entirely huge can of worms. This is easily manipulated and quickly becomes more painful then helpful.
7:07 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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How about adding a like button ala facebook for individual posts to cut down on the number of "me too" posts.
7:30 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Obviously there needs to be new solutions. The forums traffic isn't doing the best, user participatation is at an all time low. If you keep saying no to everything people, you'll be talking to yourselves.

I think voting, rating and sorting by popularity, interest and usefulness is what has revolutionized the Internet and put WebmasterWorld in the dust. I still love this site by the way. :)

For all the naysayers (long time users) make them happy by making the default view as the timeline that is. Show what Webmasterworld WAS. Then provide a sorting feature for ratings so that the best can rise to the top.

Can of worms? Too hard? Boo hoo. Success is innovation you lazy old coots. Do something different become something different, do the same, die the same.

It's not that hard to get a quality voting system in place. Consult Digg, Tweetmeme, Popurls, Reddit, StumbleUpon, it's been proven to drive those sites to the top of the pack in content quality.

People don't have the time anymore to trudge around on one forum. Back in the day WebmasterWorld use to be THE resource, it's just a ripple in the pond now.

Next up is that you MUST, absolutely MUST add social media integration. Each post should have the ability to share on Twitter and Facebook. In some ways, this could be your rating system. If it has been shared by someone on their unique and public social account they obviously found it valuable.

This would build an incredible reference of backlinks and mentions into the social world for WebmasterWorld and bridge the old with the new.

Voting / Social = the most vital thing you could do for WebmasterWorld.com to see a rise in participation and site use. I guarantee it. The old coots can spin in their dusty old computer rooms, while people like me are dashing through the real world using mobile devices, laptops, tvs and tablets to check in at WebmasterWorld.
7:49 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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webaddict,

I see you have been here for a while, but have very few posts, so I am wondering how you support this statement:
The forums traffic isn't doing the best, user participatation is at an all time low

Just curious.

I guarantee it.

Really?
7:59 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I think this sounds great. Not sure that I'd want it to rearrange the order of the post, but I've seen places where if any post gets enough rec's it gets highlighted green. That way its very easy to skim the best answers and getting a green post creates an incentive for users to make great informative posts. As far as I can tell it works great, but I haven't seen it used on SEO forums though...
8:11 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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travelin cat,

Research shows me that it's declining in traffic. In terms of user participation and engagement, it's obvious every time I come here (which used to be very often.) Topics and discussions don't move as fast and the range of topics have been "dry" for quite awhile. I still come back every month or two to search for gems.

I always found it best to stay quiet and observe and read everything. I saw way too many floggings for asking "newbie" questions so I just perused, learned and succeeded without discussion here. It is the same policies of WebmasterWorld that are in discussion as to why I've been quiet. I took my discussions elsewhere.

Yes, absolutely I guarantee it. The growth of user participation and social integration is not a question of if it should be, it's a question of when all sites will either give way or give up. Of course there will be little old dusty places that will survive for ages in the SERPS but that doesn't mean they survive in discussion, numbers, engagement and mentions in the real world, which the social world is but a reflection of.

The most talk WebmasterWorld has ever had on Twitter is now, when they are asking for help. It's already bolstering mentions, backlinks and interest in the site. Allowing users to propel this into the social networks is a no brainer.
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