| 1:14 am on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)|
I sent YSM a long, detailed letter about this problem. Their reply....actually I am still waiting for it after 9 months. It would all be solved with a site exclusion feature as has been mentioned ad nauseam in this forum. I cut my spend with them 50% for this reason.
| 3:23 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)|
Well we have heard that this is going to be something that they may offer in the future. In the mean time the are making 10s of millions in profits from inflated and next to worthless clicks. I have a reply from them and infact we have received several. They are all boilerplate. No one has actually addressed our issues honestly. I wonder if Google knows that Yahoo partners are bidding in their system and turning around and selling the same traffic at many times the rate back to Yahoo PPC clients. Maybe Google doesn't care about this as it is obviously bad for Yahoo and their clients. I am including their letter that they send to everyone. Notice they don't actually address the issue.
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| 8:36 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)|
I asked one of the head YSM guys at SES this year during the forum for such. He said its something they've often been asked for by clients and with Panama finally deploying, they can now begin to address client concerns regarding new features and such.
Lets just hope he's less of a liar then the rest of Yahoo.
| 9:31 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)|
Yahoo is a bad investment getting worse. The ability for advertisers to measure advertising investments is essential for Yahoo to survive. Yahoo, as a major search engine, owes everyone a commitment to maintaining a reasonable level of business ethics. At this point in time, we advertisers can not count on a fair and measurable process from Yahoo. They are creating ineffeciencies and making the web a less attractive place by using low quality partner sites. In the end I have asked all my clients to move their money to more measurable and reliable methods. I would love to see Yahoo address these issues honestly and professionally. It seems their recent moves are analogous to the throws of a panicked dumb animal in the desperation of its impending death. They have run out of ideas about how to compete and cheating is all they can come up with.
The truth is that advertisers need to act in unison or we may find ourselves in serious financial trouble. Yahoo is no longer a safe place to stake your business.
PPC allows those who profit most to prevail. If Yahoo makes it difficult for companies with ethical practices to survive the search engines could become a bad neighborhood.
| 10:53 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)|
You know I sound pretty upset and I am, LOL. But everything I said in the last post rings true to me. Perhaps the productive thing to do would be to start listing their suspected partner sites. So at least it would be obvious to Yahoo advertisers what Yahoo is really up to. Does anyone have an idea about how I might accomplish this?
| 1:44 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)|
I can see some key information is being edited out of my entries. I totally understand why Webmasterworld would feel they need to do this. However I am going to post these to the web I will optimize the page <snip>. I plan to post all of the sites that appear to by Yahoo partners. I appreciate Webmasterworld at least allowing these issues to be discussed to some degree. Without venues like this one the web would be a darker place.
[edited by: werty at 9:20 pm (utc) on Jan. 15, 2007]
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